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Marry Him! The case for settling for Mr. Good Enough
Atlantic Monthly ^ | March 2008 | Lori Gottlieb

Posted on 02/14/2008 6:25:05 AM PST by reaganaut1

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To: rintense

“Oh I know some of those ‘married within two week’ girls. They scare the hell outta me, and again, give us decent chicks a bad rep.”

The last one I went out with was upset that I hadn’t asked her to move in after a few months. When I told her we still had a long way to go before we made any move that permanent, she was hurt, or feigned that I had hurt her. Now I realize that she was looking to find some cheap shelter. Whew, dodged a bullet there.

I have to admit to being a Dr. Laura fan, and was listening pretty intently then, so I already knew that the situation wouldn’t last to long. I thank Dr. L for that.


261 posted on 02/14/2008 11:20:21 AM PST by CSM (Kakistocracy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens.)
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To: JSDude1
Any woman that tries to take my authority is NO MAS to me, I WILL NOT marry a feminist no matter how beautiful!! If she doesn’t like it, then we will just have to move on.

I am NOT a feminist. I am a faithfully, happily married stay at home mom and wife who homeschooled for 7 years.

But I do believe that a *good* woman has to have power. I am head-strong and opinionated. But I devote all that energy into teaching, raising and protecting my children and home. I tell my husband what vitamins to take and I feed him well. *That's my job.* The man works 16 hour days to provide for us and doesn't have time to get into all that. When he comes home, I take care of him.

It's a partnership. Two days ago he held my hand and carried me out of the dr's office after a particularly painful procedure. Once we got home he kicked our two teenagers in the butt and had them clean up and make dinner.

This morning I got him a decongestant to help with a stuffed ear. I know he wanted to argue, but he didn't. He shut up and took the stupid pill.

Division of labor. That's the key. I rule the house, he assists me. He rules everything outside of these four walls and I assist him. We both have areas where we are stronger than the other. We compliment the other. We bend to the will of the other when necessary, but *both* of us have the greater good of the relationship first and foremost in our heads and hearts at all times.

Weak, subservient women don't make good wives and they *definitely* don't make good mothers. The best wives are strong, powerful and *committed* to their families. They only bend to the will of their man when he *right* and they're confident and secure enough to admit when they're wrong.

262 posted on 02/14/2008 11:25:35 AM PST by Marie (Why is it that some people believe everything that happens is the will of G-d - except Israel?)
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To: CSM
At this stage in my life I have simply given up and am pretty ambivilent about the whole dating thing. Working Dave Ramsey’s system helps a lot in not really missing it.

Hubby and I are doing DR. It's been a life-saving system.

Don't give up on women. Just set your standards and be patient. (The only standard I would say is flexible would be in the "appearance department". There are quite a few chubby chicks who are perfectly capable of making a man very content. And they can usually cook! lol!)

263 posted on 02/14/2008 11:28:39 AM PST by Marie (Why is it that some people believe everything that happens is the will of G-d - except Israel?)
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To: najida
That’s all the books have are uber-masculine, super-protective, ultra-male men. Even by very lib authors, just about every alpha in these stories would make John Wayne look like a pansy. Any yea, soldiers, special forces, warriors...so flags and patriotism of any century is a real turn on. The kicker is, they actually love women, adore their females....and want them to be happy. Wow, what a concept/ sarc Oh, and they happen to be incredible in bed.

Uh... I found that guy. Actually I located a whole nest of them, many available and looking to settle down.

Just go to the nearest US Army base... :-)

264 posted on 02/14/2008 11:31:05 AM PST by Marie (Why is it that some people believe everything that happens is the will of G-d - except Israel?)
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To: Marie

Yes in the home I agree, and it’s not a dictatorship- but in the end your husband has the ultimate authority. I agree it will be a partnership (and a sacred contract/oath/ etc) whenever I get married.

No, I will nto marry a woman that will constantly argue with me just for the sake of being opinionated, but only for the sake of our children/relationship.


265 posted on 02/14/2008 11:31:30 AM PST by JSDude1 (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56306 "MoveON McCain" To find McCain's Sorros)
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To: Marie
The argument ended well enough. We decided to blame the kids, his job and my back. (That's called a compromise.)

You call it a compromise, I call it "life". ;^) Between two kids in college and one in kindergarten, we barely have time to say hello to each other, especially now that it's "tax season".

266 posted on 02/14/2008 11:31:47 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Don't blame me - I'm a Fredhead!)
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To: Marie
The only standard I would say is flexible would be in the "appearance department".

I agree in principle, but I'll let you in on a bit of male psychology. A man has to be attracted to his wife at least a little bit. Doesn't have to be much, only a little. I don't date women that I'm not at least mildly attracted to. That sounds mean, but it isn't. I can only go against my ingrained wiring on that for so long. If I date a completely unattractive woman it will eventually become a problem for me and thus, become a problem for her. So believe me when I say that by not dating completely unattractive women I am doing both those women and myself a huge favor. I'm avoiding pain and heartache for the both of us.
267 posted on 02/14/2008 11:33:34 AM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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To: Marie

LOL!
Yep,
we sit smack in the middle of about 4 military installations-— from Parris Island to Ft. Stewart.


268 posted on 02/14/2008 11:36:39 AM PST by najida (I am so grateful that stupid isn't contagious.)
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To: Fawn

That’s really not what I meant. :-\

But there are occasional posters on these threads who married young and who think that anyone who didn’t, obviously actively chose to be alone (for selfish reasons, of course) and/or have something seriously wrong with them. Morally wrong, most likely.


269 posted on 02/14/2008 11:36:42 AM PST by RosieCotton (A place for everything and everything in its place - 2008 Resolution #1)
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To: Pistolshot
Hey, you can't argue with guns.

Oh, and a secrets is that do to the way hormones work the more often she gets it the more often she wants it. FYI ;-D
270 posted on 02/14/2008 11:36:58 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: GQuagmire
As a rule I try to read the articles,but four pages of that drivel,no thanks...

You know, it's you people who read the articles that really ruin the comment threads!

272 posted on 02/14/2008 11:40:47 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: TalonDJ
Oh, and a secrets is that do to the way hormones work the more often she gets it the more often she wants it. FYI ;-D

Boy, someone has you snowed.

lol

273 posted on 02/14/2008 11:41:28 AM PST by Pistolshot (Remember, no matter how bad your life is, someone is watching and enjoying your suffering.)
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To: Marie

“Hubby and I are doing DR. It’s been a life-saving system.”

I agree with you there. It has also really helped me to “grow up” a lot in the last year or so. I have to admit that the growth I’ve experienced would have probably helped me a lot in the department being discussed on this thread.


274 posted on 02/14/2008 11:42:19 AM PST by CSM (Kakistocracy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens.)
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To: JSDude1
Yes in the home I agree, and it’s not a dictatorship- but in the end your husband has the ultimate authority.

I hate to argue, but in our marriage, this isn't the case. See, we learned how to argue - with respect and with the goal of finding truth, not to win. Sometimes he is really *wrong* and what he proposes could actually cause damage to the family unit. (Sometimes it's me that's wrong.) Because we both have the greater good as the highest interest, we work through our differences to figure out what the greater good actually is. In some areas, he's wiser. In other areas, I'm wiser. Because we have division of labor (our areas of specialty), we play on each other's strength's and weaknesses.

Trust me, after I spent a month doing research on his high blood pressure, he *does* take the fish oil and baby aspirin that I told him to take. I'm the health authority. When I feed him a low-carb meal, he eats it. When he tells me that he wants more deserts, I say no. I love him too much to bury him and he knows it. Last month I told him that we couldn't afford his Harley and it had to go. It's going.

Am I a naggy wife? Not at all. He's laid down the law just as often in my direction. Last week, although I run the finances, he told me (in no uncertain terms) that he wanted me to start putting money into a mutual fund for retirement.

The point is, when I assert myself he knows I'm doing it because it's the right thing and because I love him and our family. Vice-versa. It's called *respect* and *trust*. This is respect and trust that we've *both* earned.

275 posted on 02/14/2008 11:44:11 AM PST by Marie (Why is it that some people believe everything that happens is the will of G-d - except Israel?)
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To: reaganaut1

I have found that if you marry an insane person life can be exciting


276 posted on 02/14/2008 11:44:53 AM PST by woofie
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To: weegee

Why Bother
Kim du Toit
February 13, 2008
7:22 AM CST

The non-lawyer half of the InstaCouple says this:

“Nowadays, for many men, the negatives of marriage for men often outweigh the positives. Therefore, they engage in it less often. Not because they are bad, not because they are perpetual adolescents, but because they have weighed the pros and cons of marriage in a rational manner and found the institution to be lacking for them.”

I think women don’t understand how clinical men can be when it comes to analyzing a relationship. (Note: just because we don’t talk about our relationship with you, doesn’t mean we don’t analyze it.)

Here’s how I explain it. I think that men keep a running ledger going in their subconscious—all the good/great things about their relationship on the one side, and all the bad/terrible things on the other. At some point or another, if the perceived negatives outweigh the positives, the man will quit the relationship—I mean, just bail out of the whole thing—and usually with a swiftness and finality which confounds women.

Because we’re guys, we don’t talk about this much—even, or especially with other men, and hardly ever with women. But it’s a plain fact.

Now, because we’re guys, certain things have a disproportionate effect on both the good and bad things: on the good side, sex, food and shared interests being probably the best examples; on the bad, infidelity, constant nagging and invasion of privacy constitute the negative. The degree of each, good or bad, will vary among individual men, of course. Some men will put up with almost anything if the sex is of the “bed on fire” variety, for instance, while others will walk out of a relationship for something as trifling as compulsory weekly visits to Mom (hers)......

More goodness and truth:

http://www.theothersideofkim.com/index.php/tos/single/11474


277 posted on 02/14/2008 11:45:24 AM PST by fish70
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To: najida

My error, my appologies. My first statement was a snide comment and shouldn’t have been made. I was reading through all the posts and made an incorrect assumption. I’ll wager you’ve had a break up that felt like a divorce.


278 posted on 02/14/2008 11:50:09 AM PST by Diplomat
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To: JamesP81
I agree in principle, but I'll let you in on a bit of male psychology. A man has to be attracted to his wife at least a little bit. Doesn't have to be much, only a little.

I have a little secret for you... it's the same for us girls. It just seems to me that guys are pickier in that department than the females. They pass up the "OK" woman for the "hottie" and then wonder why they get burned... over and over again. From what I've seen, the more beautiful the girl, the worse the wife.

Yes, you have to find a mate that you find at least a *little* attractive. But remember, in time she'll change (for the worse) and so will you. (Hubby wasn't bald when I met him! lol!)

279 posted on 02/14/2008 11:50:17 AM PST by Marie (Why is it that some people believe everything that happens is the will of G-d - except Israel?)
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To: Night Hides Not
You call it a compromise, I call it "life". ;^) Between two kids in college and one in kindergarten, we barely have time to say hello to each other, especially now that it's "tax season".

Have you tried Hall Sex? (That's when you pass each other in the hall and say, "F U!") ;-)

280 posted on 02/14/2008 11:51:50 AM PST by Marie (Why is it that some people believe everything that happens is the will of G-d - except Israel?)
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