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IMO, this guy has it wrong. Huckabee and McCain both stink; not just McCain.
1 posted on 02/13/2008 4:21:31 PM PST by jdm
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Stop the bleeding. Vote Third. No mandates for RINO McCain.


2 posted on 02/13/2008 4:24:43 PM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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The Republican party has moved so far left over the years to expand its voter base by appeasing Socialists that its ideology is incrementally aligning with the Socialist Democrats. They are essentially one party. Another party would restore the two party system.
3 posted on 02/13/2008 4:33:43 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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if McVain is the most conservaive, best candidate the GOP can come up with, this is certainly at least worthy of consideration. The Republicans started as a third party.

Maybe there will be a major influx to the Constitution Party. I wonder if they can convince at least a semi-serious candidate to run for President on their line.

And to the professional Republibots around here, I wouldn’t worry about that. The Dimmycraps are going to be drained by Cynthia McKinney on the Green line, Nader on the imaginary party, and maybe Bloomberg.


4 posted on 02/13/2008 4:34:04 PM PST by TBP
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To: hiredhand

Third Party ping!


7 posted on 02/13/2008 4:45:48 PM PST by jan in Colorado ("It's easier to believe a lie one hears 1,000 times than to believe a fact that one has never heard)
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It’s quicker, easier and more effective to vote out the leftist bums who are not on the conservative agenda. You don’t move out of your house when roaches invade the kitchen. You get rid of the roaches. You don’t keep the bottom 10% of the producers in your company. You fire them and replace them and fire the bottom 10% again next year.

A third party would cause conservatism to wander in the wilderness for years to come while liberalism coalesces around whatever trendy bag of hollow-blathered socialism suits their fancy.

Let’s clean up our own party to succeed and leave the tried and true third party failures to the Greens and Independents. -Wb

8 posted on 02/13/2008 5:23:33 PM PST by Wagonboy (STOP GLOBAL WHINING!)
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If McCain wins the Presidency despite the near total rejection of Conseratives then Conseratives will be finished as a force in the Republican nominating process for at least a generation. The new formula for success will be a broad appeal to moderate Republicans and Independents.

The options are:

1) Stay home on election day or skip voting for President. - This will be reflected in the exit polling but doesn't really provide a clear message to the Party.

2) Vote for the Democrat - This will be interpreted as the country moving much farther to the left.

3) Vote for McCain - This will be seen as proof that Conservatives are not an important part of the formula for a Republican Presidential win.

4) Vote Third Party - Provides an unmistakable message to the Party that Conservatives can't be ignored in the nominating process.

The Third Party option would probably sink the Republican candidate but it would force a return to the Conservative roots of the Party in the next election. I don't think it should be dismissed so quickly.
9 posted on 02/13/2008 5:28:32 PM PST by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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To: jdm

Except in certain cases I have stopped voting Repub altogether. As a party they are wholly repugnant and underserving of my support.


11 posted on 02/13/2008 5:42:35 PM PST by Grunthor (Unlike the Republican Party, this conservatives' principles MEAN SOMETHING!)
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I’ve heard that both the Libertarian and Constitution Parties have made overtures to Ron Paul. Regardless of what you think of his positions he does bring a large grassroots support base and fund raising machine to the table. I’m hearing that he does not want to run 3rd party because he’s done it once before (in 1988 for the Libertarian Party) and polled badly and he’s more interested in keeping the ‘movement’ going and if he ran 3rd party there would be a backlash as he’d be the Nader in this race to McCain’s Kerry and would catch the heat for losing the race for the Republican Party. Say what you will about Libertarians but the Republican Party needs there votes.


19 posted on 02/13/2008 7:09:38 PM PST by NoCountryForLiberals
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If the big govt spendaholic christianists want to leave the GOP then by all means please do so. Those of us who want the Federal govt to stay out of our pocketbooks won’t miss them in the least.


24 posted on 02/13/2008 8:52:29 PM PST by KantianBurke ("If you like President George W. Bush, you'll love Mike Huckabee,")
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If this is going to happen, it will take the Christians to provide the muscle and the money... And I know a lot of you are going to hate this, but it is going to need Dobson to lead it, or you will have another Huckabee, pleasant for the SOCONS, but unpalatable to everyone else. Since Pat Robertson bent his halo, and because Falwell is dead, Dobson is the only one with a good consideration of Reagan Conservatism, influence among Conservative polititians, and the cahones with the SOCON leadership to fashion a good candidate.

I sure hope they step up to the plate.

34 posted on 02/13/2008 10:41:04 PM PST by roamer_1 (Conservative always, Republican no more.)
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To me, I think it is wrong to run away and vote third party. Best way to put the dimocrats in the WhiteHouse.

Not smart in my estimation.


35 posted on 02/13/2008 10:48:51 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Go for it. I’ll vote for a conservative in a third party. At some point, it’s time to send a message to the liberals in the GOP. The impudent Illinois GOP is already dead without a conservative party. I think in nationally the GOP in 2008 will be where Illinois is today.


37 posted on 02/13/2008 11:15:09 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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>>IMO, this guy has it wrong. Huckabee and McCain both stink; not just McCain.<<\

Precicely.

America really IS at a turning point as much as it was in 1930. It is political, economical, cultural and geopolitical.

We are JUST ENTERING a perfect storm and nobody knows how we will come out the other side. As an ex-Republican, the only thing that will get me back into a voting booth is a viable third party. That is a figure of speech. I will still vote for initiatives, etc., but no democrat or republican will ever get my vote again. It is not about changing a party gone bad. It is about good people coming OUT of a party gone bad. And bad it has gone.


56 posted on 02/14/2008 10:15:27 AM PST by RobRoy
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Huckabee and McCain both stink; not just McCain.

True. Its' a questionof who stinks less. I think the answer is neither.

59 posted on 02/14/2008 3:27:27 PM PST by TBP
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I’m sorry, as a conservative, there is no way I’ll vote for McCain (obviously not Hillary nor Obamma either).

I used to be one of those that would compromise and vote for the Republican nominee to avoid the “greater evil”, however, given McCain as the nominee, what is the difference now?

I’ve recently come to the realization that as conservative voters continue to endorse left of center Republicans, these candidates take these endorsements as a referendum.

The more conservatives avoid the “greater evil” by voting for RINO’s the more they are endorsing a shift away from conservatism!

Yep, this decision not to vote for McCain brings the potential eventuality that a continued shift towards socialism shall occur in the next four years, via the election of the Democratic nominee, perhaps even an irreparable shift. Let’s hope not, however, the time has come to make a stand.

I cannot and will not vote for McCain. I’ll either stay home or write in someone that I would like to see in charge of this country. Senator Jeff Sessions form Alabama immediately comes to mind (and I’m from NJ, just recently relocated to NH, and yes I voted Duncan Hunter in the NH primary).


67 posted on 02/14/2008 4:40:05 PM PST by FMBass ("Now that I'm sober I watch a lot of news"- Garofalo from Coulter's "Treason")
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If you vote for a third party, you will give the election to the Dems. Remember Ross Perot. The only way a third party will work - at least initially - is for conservatives to join that party but not run in any election that includes a D and an R until they know they can win the election. Until then, they throw their support behind the most-conservative R. Otherwise, the Ds will get elected by default. Remember Bill Clinton.


79 posted on 02/14/2008 9:15:37 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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Isn’t it special that the AP is giving a platform for talk about a third party that would split the Republican vote? So helpful! Thank you AP! I wouldn’t have expected anything from you.


83 posted on 02/14/2008 9:21:57 PM PST by winner3000
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The two worst candidates running are the two left standing. People can pass blame in any direction they want, until they’re blue in the face. I can’t imagine anyone could be happy about this outcome.

The truth hurts. The only question remaining is, what now? Everyone on both sides of this issue is very convinced of their prediction of outcome. Nine months is a lifetime in the world of politics.

As it stands today, I wouldn’t consider turning our armed forces over to Socialists. It’s just as simple as that. For me.


86 posted on 02/14/2008 9:46:18 PM PST by egginanest ( "Never interrupt me when I'm trying to interrupt you." -Winston Churchill-)
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