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Obama's Dangerous Ignorance ( lack of Knowledge about Constitution is Scary)
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_021208/content/01125113.guest.html ^

Posted on 02/13/2008 3:45:25 PM PST by newbie2008

"Does the Constitution permit a president to detain US citizens without charges as unlawful enemy combatants?" Obama's answer: "No. I reject the Bush Administration's claim that the President has plenary authority under the Constitution to detain US citizens without charges as unlawful enemy combatants." Memo to Obama: It is not the Bush administration's position. The Supreme Court held in 2004 -- this is the famous case, Hamdi v. Rumsfeld. The president has the power to detain American citizens without charges as enemy combatants. Now, I just have to think here -- I don't know what to think. He's either ignorant or he's saying something far more dangerous. If he is saying that he's not bound by the Supreme Court's interpretation of the law, liberals would have a stroke if Bush claimed the kind of authority that Obama is claiming in this -- and ignorance.

Liberals are out there going bonkers every day over how stupid Bush is. This Obama interview is just scary. Let's see. Find another one here. He gets it wrong on who ratifies treaties and who consents to them. He says the president doesn't have the authority to abolish treaties. And the president does! Bush abolished the ABM Treaty shortly after taking office because Bush said it's irrelevant. The Soviets are gone. I'm getting rid of this. The liberals went nuts, but they couldn't stop him because the president does have the authority to get rid of treaties. Obama says here that the president does not have the authority to undermine Congress, the Senate here, which ratifies treaties. The Senate doesn't ratify, they consent to them. The president makes treaties, negotiates them, comes up with them. When's the last time you saw Gorbachev meeting with some senator at Reykjavik or anywhere else? Gorbachev met with Reagan, for crying out loud.


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To: newbie2008

Just another in a long line of examples that shows Obambi is a media-created empty suit. There is no “there” there.


21 posted on 02/13/2008 4:21:21 PM PST by ought-six
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To: newbie2008

this guy went thru columbia and harvard without leaving a trace - i think he is a complete fraud and this is going to be this years big story.


22 posted on 02/13/2008 4:21:26 PM PST by spanalot (*)
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To: newbie2008

Just another in a long line of examples that shows Obambi is a media-created empty suit. There is no “there” there.


23 posted on 02/13/2008 4:21:43 PM PST by ought-six
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To: Baladas

Agreed.
But calling Obama “ignorant” is ignorant.
I’m just sayin’...:-)


24 posted on 02/13/2008 4:23:11 PM PST by BunkDetector
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To: BunkDetector
Hmmm...Rush dropped out after one semester at the University of Missouri....Obama was Law Review in his class at Harvard Law. This kind of silliness does not help us, folks.

And as he frequently mentions, he was a Professor of Constitutional Law. At some silly little college in Chicago, University of I believe.

Underestimating ones enemy, a certain road to defeat.

25 posted on 02/13/2008 4:24:08 PM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: BunkDetector
Sucks doesn't it? Happened to me on another thread.

As to the rest, Rush is dead wrong.

[The President] shall have power, by and witht he advice and consent of the Senate. to make treaties, provided two therds of the Senators present concur;" Article II, Section 2., Paragraph 2.

rat·i·fy /ˈrætəˌfaɪ/ [rat-uh-fahy] –verb (used with object), -fied, -fy·ing. 1. to confirm by expressing consent, approval, or formal sanction: to ratify a constitutional amendment.

2. to confirm (something done or arranged by an agent or by representatives) by such action.

Rush needs to stick to things he knows about.
26 posted on 02/13/2008 4:24:43 PM PST by Sudetenland (Mike Huckabee=Bill Clinton. Can we afford another Clinton in the White House...from either party?)
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To: BunkDetector

“Do you have ANY idea how competitive life is at Harvard Law?”

Uh, didn’t Ted “The Swimmer” Kennedy go to Harvard Law? If he got through it I’d have my suspicions about it being as tough as it’s made out to be.


27 posted on 02/13/2008 4:27:10 PM PST by ought-six
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To: newbie2008

Wait a minute!....Obama is still in the ear to ear grin stage of his campaign. He doesn’t have to think yet does he?


28 posted on 02/13/2008 4:27:22 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Sudetenland
Ouch...looks my no-look typing skills have deteriorated.

[The President shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided tow thirds of the Senators present concur;"
29 posted on 02/13/2008 4:28:08 PM PST by Sudetenland (Mike Huckabee=Bill Clinton. Can we afford another Clinton in the White House...from either party?)
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To: Sudetenland

Good grief! I give up!


30 posted on 02/13/2008 4:29:04 PM PST by Sudetenland (Mike Huckabee=Bill Clinton. Can we afford another Clinton in the White House...from either party?)
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To: BunkDetector
I knew a guy who was a graduate of Harvard Law school.

He was bright and personable and had a great vocabulary -- but he was (in my opinion) not a very good lawyer.

31 posted on 02/13/2008 4:30:02 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: newbie2008
EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION SINCE THE MARXISTS TOOK OVER:

First Amendment: GOOD (the right to smear shit on a wall and call it art is the greatest gift government has given us)

Second Amendment: BAD (written by racist white guys when they needed to keep minorities, women and gays in check)

The Rest of the Constitution: To be used or ignored at the discretion of the liberals in charge.

Have a nice life.

32 posted on 02/13/2008 4:30:44 PM PST by Captainpaintball (www.whathappenedtojohnmccaininthehanoihilton.com)
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To: newbie2008

You think McCain and Huckabee understand the Constitution better?


33 posted on 02/13/2008 4:33:36 PM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: ought-six

“Uh, didn’t Ted “The Swimmer” Kennedy go to Harvard ?”

Uh, no. Virginia.


34 posted on 02/13/2008 4:38:11 PM PST by BunkDetector
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To: BunkDetector
A lawyer, like a surgeon, is a highly trained technical detail person. The surgeon knows nothing, abet very little about nutrition, and would be a fool to claim to be a diet specialist with only three course hours in nutrition.

A nutritionist that got his PhD degree in the effect of vitamin e on a rabbit gut is not an expert in human nutrition.

Obama, with a very good law degree, does not make him a constitution lawyer by any means.

In other words, that is why supreme court members don’t to real estate. They are specialist. What was Obama’s law specialty?

I have friends that are great patent lawyers but really suck at development projects.

35 posted on 02/13/2008 4:38:13 PM PST by primatreat ( Hold political and scientific idiots responsible by taking their money away!)
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To: Sudetenland

As to Rush being wrong on the presidential treaty abrogation power, you should read this:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/anncon/html/art2frag19_user.html

The President does indeed have the power to act unilaterally and abrogate a treaty, at least as recognized under current Constitutional law. There are other ways to abrogate a treaty, though the primary means seems to be by executive action.


36 posted on 02/13/2008 4:39:36 PM PST by bajabaja
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To: BunkDetector
This kind of silliness does not help us, folks.

Education does not equate to common sense.

Limbaugh has more common sense in his little finger, than B. Hussein Obama has in his whole body.

And, common sense is what we need come November.

37 posted on 02/13/2008 4:41:02 PM PST by PROCON (Dems=You can Fool Some of the People all of the Time--Abraham Lincoln)
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To: BunkDetector
Do you have ANY idea how competitive life is at Harvard Law?

You still don't get it. Obama's ignorance of the Constitution after completing Harvard makes him look really stupid. It doesn't take a law degree to understand the Constitution, as you seem to think it does. Yours is an elitist mindset that is, frankly, insulting.

38 posted on 02/13/2008 4:44:51 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: BunkDetector; ought-six

Ted “The Swimmer” did attend Harvard — as an undergraduate. He attended it repeatedly. (He was expelled twice.)

Cheating at Harvard was sometimes called “pulling a teddy.”

He attended UV Law School.


39 posted on 02/13/2008 4:45:41 PM PST by bajabaja
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To: primatreat
What was Obama’s law specialty?
He was a lecturer of constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School.
40 posted on 02/13/2008 4:47:17 PM PST by Adammon
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