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Blue Cross to Doctors: Help Us Get Rid of New Patients With Pre-Existing Conditions
FoxNews ^ | February 12, 2008

Posted on 02/13/2008 10:53:53 AM PST by Scythian

LOS ANGELES — Citing an effort to hold down costs, health insurance giant Blue Cross wants doctors in California to report conditions it could use to cancel new patients' medical coverage, it was reported Tuesday.

The state's largest for-profit health insurer is sending physicians copies of health insurance applications filled out by new patients, along with a letter advising them that the company has a right to drop members who fail to disclose "material medical history," the Los Angeles Times reported on its Web site.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: bluecross; bluedoublecross; civilrights; collusion; discrimination; donoharm; healthcare; healthinsurance; preexistingcondition; profitmargin
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PURE EVIL IS ALL I CAN SAY, PURE EVIL
1 posted on 02/13/2008 10:53:58 AM PST by Scythian
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To: Scythian

The Blues have very little reason for existing these days. States passed special enabling legislation decades ago to allow them to fix prices. Time to clean that up.


2 posted on 02/13/2008 11:01:32 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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PURE EVIL IS ALL I CAN SAY, PURE EVIL

I second that. Do they turn away illegals, too, or merely citizens with the misfortune of a pre-existing condition? Wow, condemning these patients all so they can overcharge 'healthy' people for care that you just can't get without insurance. Are they really in the 'medical' field at all?

3 posted on 02/13/2008 11:01:57 AM PST by fortunecookie (Communism/socialism has failed millions, it wasn't right for them - and it isn't right for US.)
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To: Scythian

On the other hand, do you support their customers lying to get coverage fraudulently?


4 posted on 02/13/2008 11:04:00 AM PST by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: Scythian

This is either one of three things:

1 - The most stupid and ill timed idea ever floated by a health insurer.

2 - A ploy to help Hillary with her proposal of mandated universal health care.

3 - A combination of 1 & 2.


5 posted on 02/13/2008 11:04:28 AM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: Scythian
This is just so wrong. And what these idiot insurance companies don’t realize is stories like this give the Liberals more ammo to use in pushing their healthcare solutions.
6 posted on 02/13/2008 11:05:06 AM PST by The South Texan (The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
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To: krb

Therefore, if a person had high cholesterol five years ago, he will not be able to purchase insurance.

Therefore, his only option would be to go to Medicaid and have you and I pay for it.


7 posted on 02/13/2008 11:08:26 AM PST by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: Scythian

What happened to HIPPA? So the doctors are bound tighter to the insurance companies than to the patients?


8 posted on 02/13/2008 11:09:47 AM PST by Southerngl
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To: fortunecookie; Scythian
If there is a known preexisting condition, you are not buying insurance, but rather a discount plan. Insurance won’t work if you sell it to people who have already had the occurrence.

For example: Why purchase auto insurance now, if I can just wait until after I have an accident and then purchase it to retroactively cover my losses?

If you are an insurance company and are approached by a person who has a medical condition that you know will cost $20,000 to treat over the next year, what are you going to set the premiums at? Reasonably, it would be $20,000 plus the premium for covering all other unknown ailments.

9 posted on 02/13/2008 11:09:56 AM PST by SampleMan (We are a free an industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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GET the GOVERNMENT out of HEALTHCARE.....and then you wouldn't have these problems....
10 posted on 02/13/2008 11:12:15 AM PST by goodnesswins (We are not going to let McCain go all the way, when we’ve just had a FIRST date!)
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To: Iron Munro

I don’t like the timing of this either.


11 posted on 02/13/2008 11:13:54 AM PST by JZelle
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To: trumandogz

I take it that’s a “yes.”

Do you are happy with their customers lying, and not happy about them doing something about it.

I know it’s tough, but it seems like there is something wrong with that.


12 posted on 02/13/2008 11:14:23 AM PST by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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So you think you should be able to lie to get insurance?


13 posted on 02/13/2008 11:15:00 AM PST by beandog (If exercise is so good for you, why does every bone in my body hurt)
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Obviously....the business-socialist model of health insurance isnt working either. Neither will the popular-socialist Universal Health Care

Time to let business and individuals have unlimited tax-free Medical Savings Accounts. The less we have to rely on business-socialist protected health insurance....the less push we have for the equally bad Universal Health Care


14 posted on 02/13/2008 11:16:46 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (UCFRW On McCain: "You can remove the stink-shooter from a skunk's butt....but it's still a skunk")
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To: SampleMan

By the time people reach their 30s, most have a “pre-existing condition” such has high cholesterol, metabolic syndrome, teeth or vision problems, GI problems, GERD, injuries that may later result in arthritis, etc.

So, everyone who is not in perfect health cannot purchase insurance?

For instance, I have rheumatoid arthritis. Do I not get to purchase insurance?


15 posted on 02/13/2008 11:17:28 AM PST by Judith Anne (I have no idea what to put here. Not a clue.)
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To: Iron Munro

my guess is both. big gubermint and big bidness are usually in bed together.

the people who work and pay taxes are their plebes.


16 posted on 02/13/2008 11:17:47 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Conservatives are to McCain what Charlie Brown is to Lucy.)
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To: Scythian

Is this applying only to new customers who lied on their paperwork, or would this we used to deny coverage to people who have pre-existing conditions and who tell the truth on their paperwork?


17 posted on 02/13/2008 11:20:37 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Not gonna vote for Ritalin John McCain)
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To: Scythian

There needs to be a special place in h3ll reserved for health insurer executives that promote this.


18 posted on 02/13/2008 11:21:27 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Conservative without a party.)
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To: Scythian

Pure Evil unless you want medical coverage. Pre-existing conditions can double the medical costs for all participants. Never gripe about the cost of your premiums because they are dirt cheap compared to what it costs if you get a liver transplant.

When I worked in Personnel in a mill, we found that almost 50% of our medical payments were going to about 50 employees. That’s a business with 3,000 employees. 50 people practically doubled our rates.


19 posted on 02/13/2008 11:22:28 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: SampleMan
My daughter was born prematurely, and has some respiratory issues. Should she not be covered?

At least some of those respiratory issues are due to KHPE (an arm of BCBS) insisting that the NICU discharge her early. Should that affect her ability to get insurance in the future?

20 posted on 02/13/2008 11:22:31 AM PST by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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