Rurudyne's Daily Global Cooling Watch

Brits at their Best ^ | January 31, 2008 | unattributed

[Rurudyne]

Sun's low magnetic activity may portend an ice age

The Canadian Space Agency’s radio telescope has been reporting Flux Density Values so low they will mean a mini ice age if they continue.

Like the number of sunspots, the Flux Density Values reflect the Sun’s magnetic activity, which affects the rate at which the Sun radiates energy and warmth. CSA project director Ken Tapping calls the radio telescope that supplies NASA and the rest of the world with daily values of the Sun’s magnetic activity a “stethoscope on the Sun”. In this case, however, it is the “doctor” whose health is directly affected by the readings.

This is because when the magnetic activity is low, the Sun is dimmer, and puts out less radiant warmth. If the Sun goes into dim mode, as it has in the past, the Earth gets much colder.

Tapping, who was originally from Kent, says that “Typically as you go through the ten or eleven year solar activity cycle you see the numbers go up or down. The lowest number is 64 or 68. The numbers 71 or 72 are very low, but they usually start to go up. We are at the end of a cycle, but the numbers still haven’t gone up. We have been joking around coffee that we may be seeing the Sun about to shut down.” (To date Tapping has been far more concerned about global warming.)





Here is the link to the latest flux report: http://www.drao-ofr.hia-iha.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/icarus/www/current_flux.shtml

[Alamo-Girl]

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[Landru]

Please include me on your ping list, Ruru.

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[Rurudyne]

The Sun on Vacation: Day 43 of the Gore-Hansen Minimum


Dated from January 4th, 2008, with confirmation of sunspot #10,981.


Daily Update

Flux Density Values in sfu for 18:00 on 2008:02:16

Julian Day Number : 2454513.239

Carrington Rotation Number : 2066.824

Observed Flux Density : 0070.3

Flux Density Adjusted for 1 A.U. : 0068.6

URSI Series D Flux, Adj. x 0.9 : 0061.7

[Rurudyne]

The Sun on Vacation: Day 44 of the Gore-Hansen Minimum


Dated from January 4th, 2008, with confirmation of sunspot #10,981.


Daily Update


Flux Density Values in sfu for 18:00 on 2008:02:17

Julian Day Number : 2454514.239

Carrington Rotation Number : 2066.861

Observed Flux Density : 0070.8

Flux Density Adjusted for 1 A.U. : 0069.2

URSI Series D Flux, Adj. x 0.9 : 0062.2

[Rurudyne]

The Sun on Vacation: Day 45 of the Gore-Hansen Minimum



Dated from January 4th, 2008, with confirmation of sunspot #10,981.



Monday Update

Flux Density Values in sfu for 18:00 on 2008:02:18

Julian Day Number : 2454515.239

Carrington Rotation Number : 2066.897

Observed Flux Density : 0071.3

Flux Density Adjusted for 1 A.U. : 0069.7

URSI Series D Flux, Adj. x 0.9 : 0062.7



Could this be some upward movement?

Stay tuned tomorrow!
Same Global Cooling Watch!
Same Global Cooling Thread!
[/Batman]

[Rurudyne]

The Sun on Vacation: Day 46 of the Gore-Hansen Minimum


Dated from January 4th, 2008, with confirmation of sunspot #10,981.


Tuesday Update


Flux Density Values in sfu for 18:00 on 2008:02:19

Julian Day Number : 2454516.239

Carrington Rotation Number : 2066.934

Observed Flux Density : 0071.5

Flux Density Adjusted for 1 A.U. : 0069.9

URSI Series D Flux, Adj. x 0.9 : 0062.9

[I got the rope]

LOL...You’re funny.

Great thread by the way.

[Rurudyne]

The Sun on Vacation: Day 47 of the Gore-Hansen Minimum


Dated from January 4th, 2008, with confirmation of sunspot #10,981.


Wednesday Update


Flux Density Values in sfu for 22:00 on 2008:02:20

Julian Day Number : 2454517.406

Carrington Rotation Number : 2066.977

Observed Flux Density : 0071.2

Flux Density Adjusted for 1 A.U. : 0069.6

URSI Series D Flux, Adj. x 0.9 : 0062.6

[Rurudyne]

The Sun on Vacation: Day 48 of the Gore-Hansen Minimum


Dated from January 4th, 2008, with confirmation of sunspot #10,981.


Thursday Update


Flux Density Values in sfu for 18:00 on 2008:02:21

Julian Day Number : 2454518.239

Carrington Rotation Number : 2067.007

Observed Flux Density : 0071.7

Flux Density Adjusted for 1 A.U. : 0070.2

URSI Series D Flux, Adj. x 0.9 : 0063.1


Well ... we're out of the 60's for a moment.

[Rurudyne]

The Sun on Vacation: Day 49 of the Gore-Hansen Minimum


Dated from January 4th, 2008, with confirmaion of sunspot #10,981.


Friday Update *Ping*


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Flux Density Values in sfu for 18:00 on 2008:02:22

Julian Day Number : 2454519.239

Carrington Rotation Number : 2067.044

Observed Flux Density : 0072.2

Flux Density Adjusted for 1 A.U. : 0070.7

URSI Series D Flux, Adj. x 0.9 : 0063.6


So here's a question: when should this "global cooling watch" end?

Looking at some of the data I've posted it seems like a flux value of 80 or so usually means things are cooking again; however, it seems we reached almost 95 last December before things quieted down –again–.

Any suggestions on when this should go from daily updates, to weekly, to none?

[Rurudyne]

Also, I've come across another interesting link that may relate to this topic.

You good folks are probably already aware of the Northern Lights which come and go in an 11 year cycle and which have long been tied to the strength of the solar wind (which, along with sunspot activity and solar flux, is an indicator of "glowball warmth").

Now, for years spacecraft have occasionally encountered the pounding the solar winds bestow on Earth's magnetic fields but they haven't been able to quality it.

However, last May 20th the themis satellites ( http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20071213/ai_n21154545 ) may have answered the 64 thousand dollar question (including the ability to calculate the energy involved).

"The satellites have found evidence of magnetic ropes connecting the Earth's upper atmosphere directly to the Sun. We believe that solar wind particles flow in along these ropes, providing energy for geomagnetic storms and auroras," Dr Sibeck said.

The magnetic rope is formed from a twisted bundle of magnetic fields organised much like the twisted hemp of a mariner's rope. Although spacecraft have detected these invisible ropes before, it was the five micro satellites of Themis that allowed scientists to visualise their three-dimensional structure.

"Themis encountered its first magnetic rope on 20 May. It was very large, about as wide as the Earth, and located approximately 40,000 miles above Earth's surface in a region called the magnetopause," Dr Sibeck said.

Read more at the above (sadly, non-functioning) link.

Can anyone clue me in to why my links don't work when I use HTML?

Now, since our magnetic bubble protects us from the solar winds I'm not going to sit here and tell you that all this energy is absorbed as heat into our environment; however, the presence of a non-irradiant means of transferring energy to the Earth may have significance and enable us to refine our notions about the relative importance of sun-sourced heating and Earth based heat retention.

Also, I'm curious about is that, now that we have gained a better understanding of other-than-irradiance means for Sol to heat things up, how will this affect our views about the two other planets that usually get brought up in GW debates? Interestingly, both Mars and Venus lack a strong magnetic field like Earth's so it may be possible that they are more directly affected by the solar wind which we are partly shielded from.

You will remember reports that Mars (inner solar system) along with various outer solar system bodies have been heating up and the sun is the obvious commonality. Now, if we were to assume that data often takes time to get into the public awareness it is possible that these reports are based on data several years old. I do recall people trying to dismiss these observations on the basis that the heating seemed different than expected (based on known Total Solar Irradiance?); however, if there is a significant secondary solar source this may prove problematic for those who want to discuss other global warmings in terms apart from the sun.

Mars: http://www-ssc.igpp.ucla.edu/personnel/russell/papers/mars_mag/

Venus: http://www-ssc.igpp.ucla.edu/personnel/russell/papers/venus_mag/

[SunkenCiv]

Where have all the sunspots gone?
Watts Up With That? | 02/13/2008 | Watts Up With That?
Posted on 02/15/2008 7:54:28 PM EST by TheHound
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1971200/posts

Solar Activity Diminishes; Researchers Predict Another Ice Age
dailytech.com | February 9, 2008 | Michael Asher
Posted on 02/09/2008 3:25:57 PM EST by neverdem
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1967753/posts

Russian scientist says Earth could soon face new Ice Age
Russian News & Information Agency
Posted on 01/23/2008 1:09:35 PM EST by Bulwinkle
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1958316/posts

Global ocean temperatures continue to fall
National Climactic Data Center | 1/16/2007 | Dangus (Vanity)
Posted on 01/16/2008 12:59:15 PM EST by dangus
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1954691/posts

Changes in the Sun’s Surface to Bring Next Climate Change
Space and Science.net | January 2, 2008 | PRESS RELEASE: SSRC 1-2008
Posted on 01/12/2008 1:24:01 PM EST by SamAdams76
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1952624/posts

Historical Review:
Megadrought And Megadeath In 16th Century Mexico (Hemorrhagic Fever)
CDC | March 28, 2002 | R. Acuna-Soto, D. Stahle, M. Cleaveland and M. Therrell
Posted on 01/11/2006 4:33:43 PM EST by blam
Mehttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1556246/posts

A Case Study for Global Warming: The Little Ice Age offers clues to how our society might handle a...
BOOK REVIEW - LITTLE ICE AGE - HOW CIVILIZATION COPED
Source: Scientific American
Published: May 01,2001 Author: Review by Keay Davidson
Posted on 04/28/2001 21:15:39 PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3aeb956b4a31.htm

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Rurudyne.

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[Always Right]

Hmmm....the sun effects global temperature. Who wudda thunk?

[SunkenCiv]

Solar Activity Diminishes
Daily Tech | 2/9/08
Posted on 02/12/2008 1:22:05 PM EST by arawlin2
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1969169/posts

A cold spell soon to replace global warming
RIA Novosti | 03/ 01/ 2008 | Oleg Sorokhtin
Posted on 01/03/2008 10:40:48 AM EST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1947712/posts

Is a New Solar Cycle Beginning?
www.physorg.com | 12/17/2007 | by Dr. Tony Phillips, Science@NASA
Posted on 12/18/2007 8:40:18 AM EST by Red Badger
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1941154/posts

Struggle Seen As Sun Switches Magnetic Field Polarity [ 2001 ]
Unisci | January 29, 2001 | unattributed
Posted on 04/18/2007 12:59:07 PM EDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1819395/posts

[dayglored]

>> “From what I can tell, any other html in a post kills the clickable link.”

> Ok ... THAT’S bizarre. Thanks anyway! Now I know.

I don't think anyone else addressed your question on this thread, and you may have got this worked out yourselves, but it's NOT bizarre.

The relevant HTML interpretation rules for FR posts are sorta like this:

1. If NO HTML tags whatsoever appear in the text of the post, then it is assumed the poster doesn't know (or doesn't want to bother with) HTML, so a little automatic formatting is done on their behalf:
   • blank lines are converted to paragraph breaks (that will appear as blank lines)
   • words beginning with "http://" will be automatically turned into clickable links.
   • ...

2. But if ANY HTML tags appear in the post text, then it is assumed that the poster knows HTML, and wants to control their own destiny. Thus:
   • blank lines are compressed to spaces like normal HTML
   • you have to make your own clickable links, by putting in your own anchor tags:
               <A HREF="...">...</A>
   • ...

Simple as that. For more info:

Basic HTML Formatting

The HTML Campfire

The HTML Sandbox

How to Post a Thread

[dynachrome]

Yer right. I should have pointed him/her to the sandbox thread.

[Rurudyne]

Thanks!

I forgot about all that and was trying to use url tags.

[Rurudyne]

Thanks for all the cool links.

[dayglored]

> Yer right. I should have pointed him/her to the sandbox thread.

Heh, maybe; but then he/she would have been lost forever reading those threads and looking for more pictures of the female Admin Mods and their guns, and the remainder of the thread would never have happened... ;-)