To: doug from upland
And what words would be the trigger for investigation under the next President? "revolution", "freedom", "liberty" ...?
The blind support I see from so many for this program really makes me wonder if anyone really believes in free speech, federalism and limited government, or if they want that only when the opposition is in power.
If this country wants to be serious about stopping terrorism, we already know what needs to be done, and tapping the communications of US citizens is not among those things. Until they take on the issues of energy independence and the Saudi export of jihadist philosophy, as well as establishing actual operational control over our own border, this War on Terror is and will always be a fraud.
As far as 'criminal penalties', I have a real hard time taking that seriously in light of the constant stream of cases in which an agent of the government gets away scot-free with acts that would put any citizen in jail for a long time.
39 posted on
02/13/2008 6:45:32 AM PST by
FR Class of 1998
(Government vending: Insert Paycheck and Press '4' for English)
To: FR Class of 1998; MNJohnnie
“FR Class of 1998” - In your dumping on this security measure for our nation, you employ a deceptive handle.
You, in fact, came on FR on 2008-01-03 and are thereby a NEWBY. You wouldn’t be a TROLL - would you, dear one???????????????????????????????????????????????????
41 posted on
02/13/2008 7:01:35 AM PST by
mtntop3
To: FR Class of 1998; traviskicks
The blind support I see from so many for this program really makes me wonder if anyone really believes in free speech, federalism and limited government, or if they want that only when the opposition is in power.
It really amazes me that some here swear by the same blind allegience to Government on issues like this, while criticizing liberals for similar blind allegience on things like health care. Do you all simply assume that someone you trust will always be in control of who/what gets monitored? Have we forgotten how well meaning laws can get turned on their ears by some liberal activist judge with a hatred for conservative values...such as the words 'freedom' and 'liberty'?
I'm sure I will be criticized as a 'terrorist sympathizer' or something childish. Please bring it. I am pretty sure the framers are spinning in the grave over this nonsense.
There are other ways to legitimize the monitoring of terrorist communications over our networks than granting a huge behemoth like AT&T blanket immunity to do as they please. They will find ways to abuse it. And removing all accountability at the federal level is fairly absurd as well.
The fact that there was so little debate over removing the civil liberty protections is the most troubling part of all.
42 posted on
02/13/2008 7:08:27 AM PST by
bamahead
(Few men desire liberty; The majority are satisfied with a just master. -- Sallust)
To: FR Class of 1998
Hi, fake name newbie.
We are intercepting communications from a foreign target. I want it audited and monitored with critical oversight, but I want it done.
44 posted on
02/13/2008 7:16:57 AM PST by
doug from upland
(Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
To: FR Class of 1998
“If this country wants to be serious about stopping terrorism, we already know what needs to be done, and tapping the communications of US citizens is not among those things.”
Yeah, if the person being tapped is a US citizen, then there is no way they could be affiliated with Al Qaeda, or have any intentions of harming their own country./s
To: FR Class of 1998
“If this country wants to be serious about stopping terrorism, we already know what needs to be done, and tapping the communications of US citizens is not among those things.”
Yeah, if the person being tapped is a US citizen, then there is no way they could be affiliated with Al Qaeda, or have any intentions of harming their own country./s
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