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The McCain Mutiny
IBD ^ | February 11, 2008

Posted on 02/11/2008 5:48:13 PM PST by Kaslin

Republicans: George Bush insists John McCain is a true conservative. James Dobson says he's not. Meanwhile, Newsweek predicts "there will be blood" in the GOP. We predict a Republican president. There has to be.


McCain wasn't our first choice, but in the field that remains, he's the best choice. It would be disastrous for America if those conservative purists who'd make the perfect the enemy of the good let America go down a path from which it might not recover.

President Bush, speaking on "Fox News Sunday," responded "absolutely" to host Chris Wallace's question of whether John McCain was a "true conservative." McCain is "very strong on national defense," is "tough fiscally," "believes the tax cuts ought to be permanent" and is "pro-life," Bush noted.

For Obama and Hillary, none of the above apply.

Bush did say, "I think that if John is the nominee, he has got some convincing to do to convince people that he is a solid conservative." Indeed he does, as evidenced by Mike Huckabee's win in the Nebraska caucuses over the weekend.

McCain has done well in primaries where independents could vote for him. In caucuses dominated by party activists, he's done poorly. The caucuses of Maine, Minnesota, Alaska, Colorado, Montana, North Dakota, Nevada and Wyoming were all won by Romney. One might dub McCain the "rebel without a caucus."

Ann Coulter may vote for Hillary Clinton, but we will not. The time for Coulters and the true believers to have rallied behind Mitt Romney was before Super Tuesday. It is by waiting for the next Reagan that they've risked sticking us with the next Clinton.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anyonebutmccain; conservatives; djsob; elections; ibd; mccain; mcmexico; rino
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To: rolling_stone

The tough love looks like it’s happening, but the Republicans with vision and values are nowhere in sight. All I can see are Country Club Republicans, who want to take the party back to the days of Everett Dirksen, Gerald Ford and Nelson Rockefeller, who never met a Democrat they couldn’t compromise with. And who led the Republican Party to defeat, year after year after year. Don’t think losing this election will guarantee improving the party. It may very well hand the party back to the Country Clubbers again, for another 50 years.

That said, I may still vote for Hillary if she’s on the ticket. Even before Ann Coulter’s speech, I was saying that she might act more like a conservative in office than McCain. I will be sure to vote Republican in the Congressional and State races, though. (And it’s a real sure bet I don’t have to live up to voting for Hillary, ‘cause it’s going to be Hussein in a landslide.


121 posted on 02/11/2008 6:50:18 PM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (Patriotism to DemocRats is like sunlight to Dracula.)
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To: Kaslin
"Drink RINO arsenic Koolaid! It'll kill ya slower than 'Rat cyanide Koolaid!"

Great new party slogan, but this year I'm going to pass.

Benedict Arnold McCain will just have to get himself elected without my vote.

122 posted on 02/11/2008 6:51:33 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Lonesome Rhodes

ROTFLMAO!!!!! ;)


123 posted on 02/11/2008 6:52:05 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: GatorGirl

“We don’t feel like we can trust McCain on anything but the terrorism issue”

Actually you can’t trust him on that either — he authored and pushed through Congress a “terrorist protection bill”, giving foreign terrorists the same rights, as the rights of US citizens, and disallowing not only torture, but even “degrading” treatment of the terrorists.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?position=all&page=S10908&dbname=2005_record

Read SA1977, continued on next page:

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2005_record&page=S10909&position=all

“PROHIBITION ON CRUEL, INHUMAN, OR
DEGRADING TREATMENT OR PUNISHMENT
OF PERSONS UNDER CUSTODY
OR CONTROL OF THE UNITED
STATES GOVERNMENT.

BUT I will still vote for McCain against Hillarobama. I’ll vote for the devil with horns, against Hillarobama. How can conservative ignore the damage a far left Dem president, with a filibuster proof Dem majority in Congress can do. How can a conservative stand by and even facilitate the Dems takeover of all three branches of the government?!

I am glad to see that while you don’t like McCain any more than I do, when the chips are down, you and I will vote for him, against the Dems.

Carter in his one term did irreversable damage to the US — he gave rise to the radical Islamists by not supporting the Shah of Iran, our friend — a Dem president with a Dem Congress WILL do irreparable damage to the US.


124 posted on 02/11/2008 6:53:04 PM PST by FocusNexus
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To: Kaslin

Tomorrow is the Virginia primary. I have voted a straight Republican ticket in every election in which I was eligible to vote since 1974, including mostly by absentee ballot for my 24 years in the Navy.

I even held my nose and voted a straight Republican ticket in 2006.

Tomorrow I will vote in the Democrat primary AGAINST Hillary Clinton. Of the Republican candidates left, it matters not which one wins; as they are all unacceptably socialist. But at least I can do my part to ensure that Hillary NEVER becomes President.


125 posted on 02/11/2008 6:53:20 PM PST by Natty Bumppo@frontier.net (The facts of life are conservative -- Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Redgirl
YOU AND OTHERS LIKE YOU DO NOT HAVE THE VOTES TO ELECT ANYONE! Start thinking rather than complaining. It’s beyond old now.
126 posted on 02/11/2008 6:53:35 PM PST by Domangart (editor and publisher)
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To: Salvation
Sorry... but it is not you that must pay penance... mcnasty is the only man that could possibly change Conservative angst... but he is incapable of doing anything that conflicts with the perfection of his self image.

LLS

127 posted on 02/11/2008 6:53:51 PM PST by LibLieSlayer ("There is no conservative alternative in the race. It's just that simple." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70
I understand your sentiments. I can not vote for a liberalcrat but am researching the third party candidates.
128 posted on 02/11/2008 6:54:03 PM PST by NickFlooding (Canceling out liberal votes since 1972.)
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To: indylindy

It’s the year of the Rat.


129 posted on 02/11/2008 6:54:49 PM PST by Domangart (editor and publisher)
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To: No Dems 2004

He may not be perfect but he’s certainly right on many, if not most, conservative issues.
______________________________________________________

Huh???


130 posted on 02/11/2008 6:55:59 PM PST by JohnD9207 (Lead...follow...or get the HELL out of the way!)
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To: Common Tator
Losing an election is like losing a battle in a war. Losing permanent control of the Republican party is like losing a war.

That summarizes why true conservatives cannot vote for McCain very well. However, those who support McCain will consider your logic as nothing more than a "hissy fit."

131 posted on 02/11/2008 6:56:02 PM PST by CharacterCounts (When you discover rats in your house, you only have two options - fumigate or tolerate.)
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To: CRBDeuce
That is not true... look at most dim women... even carville married a righty.

LLS

132 posted on 02/11/2008 6:57:52 PM PST by LibLieSlayer ("There is no conservative alternative in the race. It's just that simple." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: ladyinred
We will lose if we don’t unite.

It takes a leader of men to unite, the republicans have a class A Prick. No Help!! :^)

133 posted on 02/11/2008 7:00:49 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Rippin
mcvader is pulling 300 to 500 per crowd... osama is pulling 15,000 plus per event. We are DESERVEDLY dead meat.

LLS

134 posted on 02/11/2008 7:01:37 PM PST by LibLieSlayer ("There is no conservative alternative in the race. It's just that simple." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Not calling anyone names. Just pointing out silliness when i see it.

There is no right and wrong in this debate. Some Freepers will pass on McCain. Some will vote and hold their nose. I can respect that. What I can't respect are people making loony statements about there not being any difference between the Clintons or Obama and McCain. Or "it's better to be a loser in November than vote for McCain." I'm sorry. That's emotional pap.

I'll tell you what convinced me I've got to go this route again and vote for lesser of two evils. My best friend convinced me. He's an Army shrink. PHd in Psychology. 57 years old and just back from his second tour in Iraq. He's at the Pentagon at this time. Told me the palpable fear that exists there regarding the RATS in full control. What dangers lie in their path if the Dems control the cut and run operation and endanger 165K American troops in harm's way from Iraq.

Many of you say "I support the troops." Turning their fate over to the Beast or Barry with an increased Dem majority (all too likely) in Congress is NOT supporting the troops. It endangers them. Endangers the nation.

135 posted on 02/11/2008 7:03:20 PM PST by davidtalker (David Gold - goldtalk.com)
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To: shuckmaster
If there were enough anti-McCain Republicans to make a difference, McCain wouldn?t be the candidate.

Uh-huh. Then why do you guys keep scolding us for not supporting him?

136 posted on 02/11/2008 7:04:57 PM PST by G.Love ( Romney '12)
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To: All

Show the Washington State RINOs that they can’t get away with CHEATING, by not counting ALL of the votes.

They can count 87% of the votes in a couple of hours, but can’t count 13% of the votes in a couple of days. Grrrr

Vote for Huckabee.


137 posted on 02/11/2008 7:05:00 PM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter:pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating!)
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To: TigersEye; jveritas
jv is a fine FReeper... he does not agree with us... but he is a good guy. We may disagree with good people like jv here... but not all people wanting to unite the Party are shills for mccain. I respect jv and I know he loves this Nation. I am certain that he will fight beside us in the foxholes in another battle.

LLS

138 posted on 02/11/2008 7:05:57 PM PST by LibLieSlayer ("There is no conservative alternative in the race. It's just that simple." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: claudiustg
It would be disastrous for America if those conservative purists who’d make the perfect the enemy of the good let America go down a path from which it might not recover. -

Let me get this straight. I haven’t had a vote yet. The Republican idiots have already chosen McCain, who is a well known negative quantity, and I’m the villain for not going along?

They are not talking about the primary. Do what you will in the primary - it's John McCain's for the losing.

What they are talking about is the general election. McCain is the better choice for the country over Obama. Obama would let America go down a path from which it might not recover.

139 posted on 02/11/2008 7:06:09 PM PST by WOSG (Want to blame someone for McCain being the nominee? Blame the Mormon-bashers)
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To: Kaslin
With the Moon god’s RINO Sword of Conversion hoisted high above their heads the IBD adherents recant their Conservative faith and convert to RINO/Liberalism.
140 posted on 02/11/2008 7:07:04 PM PST by NickFlooding (Canceling out liberal votes since 1972.)
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