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To: forkinsocket
The neocons are chastened liberals who turned right.

[...] Irving Kristol and a host of other future neocons were Trotskyist intellectuals who loathed their rivals, the vulgar Stalinists. Kristol and his comrades believed in creating a worker's paradise that would reject the totalitarianism of Stalin's Soviet Union in favor of a true Marxist utopia. [...] Kristol and his fellow travelers briefly embraced liberalism in the late 1940s.

Yep...they'renot "chastened" liberals, but they're flat-out lefties. It's no wonder they are big nanny-statists, believing they know better than anyone else (including you) how to run your life.

Authoritarianism with new clothes. Too bad we don't all crave living in a Marxist utopia!

12 posted on 02/11/2008 12:23:35 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring
It all depends how you define neo-conservative.

The Kristols are cheerleaders for some of this admin's most failed polices---INCLUDING the amnesty atrocity. The Kristol crowd also backed abortion worshipping, gun grabbing gay lover RINO Giuliani.

When Giuliani kept tanking, his daddy called him and said, "Hurry up and do something Billy, or I'll take the magazine away from you."

Little Billy had to act fast----so Billy called all the neos and clued them in---Giuliani's 15 minutes were up.

"The lisping sucker won only one delegate, after all we did for him," Kristol whined. "The zipless wonder married a whore who wanted to sit in on Cabinet meetings, fer God's sake."

So now everybody was on the same page---the neos were switching to All-McCain, All The Time----just as long as McCain said something nice about a Hundred Year War in the Mideast at least once a day.

FReeper ex-snook said it better than I ever could: "Kristol showed McCain the Queen of Diamonds."

40 posted on 02/11/2008 3:37:32 PM PST by Liz (I spent $60 million and got one lousy delegate. Rudy Giuliani)
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