Posted on 02/11/2008 6:13:49 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Are John McCains supporters trying to drive conservatives away from their candidate?
Senator McCain is the inevitable Republican presidential nominee. He is headed, though, for a defeat of McGovernite dimensions if he cant sway conservatives to get behind his candidacy. For their part, conservatives dont want McCain, but even less do they want to spend the next four-to-eight years saying President Obama, let alone reliving history with another President Clinton.
In short, there are the makings here for a modus vivendi, however grudging. Yet, McCains admirers appear to think belittling the senators good-faith opponents is the way to go. Theirs is a case of the pot calling the kettle deranged and it will prove duly futile.
Put yourselves in my shoes for a moment. I have not supported Sen. McCain. I admire his perseverance and love of country. Still, I dont think he is a committed conservative, and his penchant for demonizing all opposition is, to me, extremely off-putting. Protestations to the contrary notwithstanding, theres nothing delusional about that.
In fact, as between the two of us, its McCains supporters who are deluding themselves. I take them at their word, for example, that a hallmark of the senators politics is his tenacity on matters of principle. Consequently, I am skeptical of his assurances that he would appoint conservative judges who will apply rather than create law. Why? Because he has a recent, determined history of beseeching federal courts to disregard the First Amendment in furtherance of a dubious campaign-finance scheme in which he believes passionately. Conservative judges would (and have) rejected this scheme, just as they would (and have) rejected another signature McCain position: the extension of Geneva Convention protections for jihadists.
Now, the appointment of conservative judges is a crucial issue one McCain posits as central to why we should prefer him to Obama and Clinton. Thus supporters breezily wave off such concerns, maintaining that McCain both promises there will be no issue-based litmus tests for judicial nominees and has conservatives of impeccable legal credentials advising him.
But for me to conclude McCain would surely appoint conservative judges, I also have to believe campaign-finance and the Geneva Convention werent all that big a deal to him after all a possibility that runs counter to everything McCains fans tell us about his fidelity to principle. Hes fought tirelessly for years, in the teeth of blistering criticism, to establish campaign-finance regulations, and Im now supposed to believe hell just shrug his shoulders and meekly name judges wholl torpedo the whole enterprise all in the name of upholding a judicial philosophy Im not even sure he grasps? How exactly is it deranged to have my doubts?
And, of course, thats not all. McCain points out that he supported the Supreme Court nominations of Justices Roberts and Alito; but he blocked the appointment of Pentagon general counsel Jim Haynes to the Fourth Circuit, and his Gang of 14 deal was the death knell for several other Bush judicial nominations. He says hes learned his lesson on immigration reform, but he wont rule out signing the disastrous McCain/Kennedy bill if it were to cross his desk in the Oval Office. He now says he opposes the Law of the Sea Treaty and its assault on American sovereignty, but he used to be an ardent supporter. He told National Review he didnt foresee pushing for further campaign-finance legislation, but that was when he was unsuccessfully urging the federal courts to impose further restrictions on speech and, as president, he would have the power to appoint aggressive Federal Election Commission regulators. He points to his long pro-life record, but his campaign-finance crusade included a years-long effort to suppress the pro-life message, and he supported government funding of stem-cell research that called for destroying human embryos. He claims to be for small government but he contemplates government regulation of everything from light bulbs to professional sports, even as his immigration proposals would crush state health-care and education budgets. While some of McCains supporters claim he has consistently opposed tax increases, his Kyoto-style proposal on global warming would actually result in the most enormous tax-increase in American history (while doing little, if anything, about climate change); and, relatedly, though McCain now says he supports making the Bush tax cuts permanent, he was one of their most vigorous opponents.
To be clear, I have never argued that no true conservative could support McCain a commonly repeated strawman in the derangement indictment. The GOP field featured many accomplished candidates, but it was not a grand set of choices for the Right. The candidate most wedded to our orthodoxy, Sen. Fred Thompson, was late to the race and never really got out of the starting block. Mayor Rudy Giuliani (whom I originally supported) was conservative in many ways but, like McCain, listed serial apostasies in his ledger. The conservatism of Gov. Mitt Romney (to whom I later gravitated) was, in several particulars, of recent vintage, spawning concerns about his authenticity. Gov. Mike Huckabee, a peerless advocate for life and other core social-conservative causes, sounds more like a Democrat on the economy, governed like one when it came to taxes and pardons, and often seems at sea on national-security issues.
Conservatives had to pick someone. For all his flaws, no candidate could match Sen. McCains singular leadership in preventing an American defeat in Iraq. None came close to his heroism in service to the United States. And, in two decades in the Senate, he has sided with conservatives on about four out of every five votes a rate that cannot camouflage the gravity of his departures but ought not be dismissed out of hand either. I found at least three of the other candidates more appealing than the self-professed maverick. That, however, does not mean it was irrational for other conservatives to come to a different conclusion and though some now prescribe mere opposition to McCain as a form of febrile lunacy, I never suggested otherwise.
So, when McCain became inevitable on Super Tuesday, I resigned myself to reality in short order. That, Ive always thought, is democracy in America: You do your best to persuade, you hope to win, but you dont take your ball and go home if you lose.
There remains a rational case to continue rejecting McCain. We are, after all, electing a government, not just a president. I strongly suspect the conservative movement and Republicans in Congress would perform better if set against a Democrat president than in an uneasy alliance with McCain. Thus its not a simple matter of determining whether McCain is superior to Obama or Clinton; the question is whether he is so much better that we should tolerate the heavy cost of a movement and a party less disposed to fight a President McCain on the several flawed policy preferences he shares with Democrats.
Thats far from a no-brainer. But for me, the question must be resolved in McCains favor because of the war. Our troops in harms way deserve the best commander-in-chief we have it in our power to give them; the American people deserve the most vigilant protection against a rabid enemy we have it in our power to give them. For these purposes, McCain is measurably superior to Obama and Clinton. That doesnt mean my reservations are any less real; they are just comparatively (and barely) less important.
By Wednesday, then, I was resigned to the senators being not just the nominee but our nominee. On Thursday, when Gov. Mitt Romney graciously stepped aside, I was glad. I dont see myself ever being a McCain enthusiast, but by Thursday afternoon, Id even gotten to the point of offering his campaign what I hoped was constructive advice on taking a leadership role in the current debate over intelligence reform.
But Im no longer so sure. McCains supporters continue to mock thoughtful, good-faith critics as deranged. The principal objects of scorn are such conservative talk-radio icons as Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Laura Ingraham, and Sean Hannity. A number of those folks are friends of mine, and, indeed, I appeared on a couple of their programs in the run-up to Super Tuesday. The discussion wasnt deranged. Im not deranged, and neither are they.
The McCain forces assert that ordinary Republican voters are roundly rejecting us naysayers. Really? That claim is even more demonstrably false today than it was a week ago.
Before last Tuesday, when he became inevitable, about two out of every three Republicans were voting against McCain. This past Saturday, despite having outlasted all meaningful opposition, McCain was humiliated when three out of every four Republicans cast ballots against him in the states of Washington (which he somehow won) and Kansas (where he was drubbed). To add insult to insult, McCain was also defeated in Louisiana by the likable but hopeless Huckabee, whose campaign at this point is an eccentricity. For Huck, that is; for the rest of us, it is a window on smoldering dissent and a harbinger of catastrophe to come when one factors in the Republicans who are staying home while Democrats stampede to the polls in eye-popping numbers.
McCains only chance, a slim one, is to galvanize the very people his acolytes seem bent on antagonizing. That means allaying deep-seated conservative doubt. A powerful senator not exactly famous for listening to his detractors will need some convincing on that score some understanding that, as Saturdays primaries fairly screamed, hes got a lot more work to do.
McCains fans do their candidate no favors by telling him the only people who can save his candidacy are unhinged.
And they do themselves no favors. Theres a battle on the horizon for the future of conservatism. On one side are those who revere unchanging principles, especially a healthy suspicion of government. On the other are those who would refine old principles under the guise of adapting them to new situations those apt to see government more as a force for good than a necessary evil.
Sen. McCain runs in the latter circles. There, principally, is where he finds his conservative support. If he allows his campaign to become a referendum, pitting the tried-and-true against self-consciously evolved strains of compassionate and national greatness conservatism, November will look an awful lot like Saturday night.
My posts have nothing to do with McCain... Frankly if you stay home in NOV and do not support the 50 percent Conservative candidate you will get the 100 percent liberal candidate... that is a fact.
My purpose is to point out your Ignorance in that regard...
You get the government you vote for or protest against either way its you who has to answer for that not me..
I will gladly pull the lever for McCain because in my view Islamic jihad against the U.S. is the most important issue in this election...
Your turn.
GREAT article by the always readable Andrew McCarthy.
Of course the fact that he did not say it until well after the Surge started producing serious positive results probably shouldn't be mentioned hmmm?
The current tough talking McCain? Or the Baker Commission McCain? or the “250,000 American boots on the Ground” McCain? or the McCain who echos Democrat talking points about Rumsfeild? or the pro Iraq Liberation McCain of 2002-2003?
Based on his military service I really want to like McCain. Based on his political record, I really wonder if I can trust him?
LOL...I think you just coined a great tagline.
Sometimes it is wiser to lose a little then to lose a lot... If you are completely out of the game you have no chance to regroup and come back.. good luck.
Us and them. Us and them.
What does it get us?
I'm amused by the RINO name slinging.
Three weeks ago my two adult children sat at my dinner table and announced they were voting for McCain. I launched into my "Anyone but McCain" tirade, and they looked at me like I was deranged. "You want Hillary Clinton?" I was asked.
Who's the RINO?
This is the first time I am honestly struggling with the question of whether I will vote for the Republican candidate for president. I have a few months to decide but I can see points on both sides. That doesn’t mean I won’t go to the polls and vote on all other contests but I’m not sure I can support McCain.
That said, it’s time for conservatives to look long-term and find ways in future elections to neuter the so-called moderate faction in the party long before it gets its candidate the nomination. Perhaps an alternate funding organization, perhaps a Move-On-type group with a conservative George Soros, perhaps a grassroots movement that won’t blindly send support to the RNC. Clearly we have to be sure that no matter who gets into the White House we have strong conservatives in the Senate and House to oppose liberal tendencies.
McCain was anointed by the media and moderates of the party and now is being shoved down our throats as the lesser of the evils facing us. We have to take away their ability to anoint with stronger alternative media and with a powerful conservative faction of the party grounded on more than just abortion as the unifying principle, a group well-funded enough to make a difference when the candidates need money to continue their campaigns.
Until we build up a counter-force to the moderates, with money and principles, we will continue to be expected to hold our noses and vote, and we will continue to be stereotyped as knuckle-dragging bumpkins best left outside Washington.
People don’t realize just how difficult a Election this is going to be for the GOP. Winning the WH 3 times in a row is really tough any time. Winning it after the economy goes in the tank and when it will be the other party’s 1st shot at control after a long term in the minority is even worse. Winning it running a broke 25 year member of the DC Old boy’s club at a time when every poll is showing unbridled rage at the political class is going to be almost impossible.
With Hillary it at least can be spun as one political insider vrs another.
People don’t realize just how difficult a Election this is going to be for the GOP. Winning the WH 3 times in a row is really tough any time. Winning it after the economy goes in the tank and when it will be the other party’s 1st shot at control after a long term in the minority is even worse. Winning it running a broke 25 year member of the DC Old boy’s club at a time when every poll is showing unbridled rage at the political class is going to be almost impossible.
With Hillary it at least can be spun as one political insider vrs another.
Don’t know which one but any of the McCain positions on Iraq are infinately better then the Hillary and Obama postions on Iraq... McCain has never advocated defeat and withdraw... especially in view of the enormous success of the surge which he helped broker... In any even believe what you will... vote how you choose but in the end you have no one to blame but yourself.. McCain may lose handily to Obama if the polls and the momentum are true but after the insanity that developes under Obama I will be able to stand tall and say I did not support the destruction of this country.
Dream on.
The Huck supporters will hold their nose and vote for him.
Many of the Romney supporters, of some of the Fred/Hunter true conservtives will sit it out.
If it’s a very close election the conservatives sitting it out could hurt McCain
>> Your turn.
Fair enough.
>> My posts have nothing to do with McCain...
Bull$hit. How can ordering me to vote for McCain NOT have anything to do with McCain???
>> Frankly if you stay home in NOV
I have said many times in this forum... I will not stay home in November. At the very least I will vote for the best (most conservative) candidate in the down-ballot races.
>> ...do not support the 50 percent Conservative candidate you will get the 100 percent liberal candidate... that is a fact. My purpose is to point out your Ignorance in that regard...
You aren’t pointing anything out, there, buckaroo. I am NOT ignorant of this issue. As I have also said many times, I MAY hold my nose and vote for the doofus McCain. I certainly WON’T vote for a Dem. It’s arguable that if there are enough like me McCain will lose and the Dem will win. What you Mccainiacs TOTALLY fail to support is whether or not holding the nose and voting for someone (McCain) who is so clearly opposed to conservatism, JUST BECAUSE they have that (R) by their name, is the best long-term course of action for US. If you want to explore the arguments for that position then RTFA — Andrew says it better than I could.
It’s abundantly clear to me that you did NOT read the article.
A winner of a campaign slogan!
Agreed, he is a TOOL!
Agreed, he is a TOOL!
David Brooks and Frum should be added to the list too.
If you're not working as a prosecutor at either the state or federal level: you bloody well ought to be. ;)
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