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McCain Estrangement Syndrome ("Headed for a Defeat of McGovernite Dimensions...")
National Review ^ | 02/11/08 | Andrew C. McCarthy

Posted on 02/11/2008 6:13:49 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Are John McCain’s supporters trying to drive conservatives away from their candidate?

Senator McCain is the inevitable Republican presidential nominee. He is headed, though, for a defeat of McGovernite dimensions if he can’t sway conservatives to get behind his candidacy. For their part, conservatives don’t want McCain, but even less do they want to spend the next four-to-eight years saying “President Obama,” let alone reliving history with another President Clinton.

In short, there are the makings here for a modus vivendi, however grudging. Yet, McCain’s admirers appear to think belittling the senator’s good-faith opponents is the way to go. Theirs is a case of the pot calling the kettle “deranged” — and it will prove duly futile.

Put yourselves in my shoes for a moment. I have not supported Sen. McCain. I admire his perseverance and love of country. Still, I don’t think he is a committed conservative, and his penchant for demonizing all opposition is, to me, extremely off-putting. Protestations to the contrary notwithstanding, there’s nothing delusional about that.

In fact, as between the two of us, it’s McCain’s supporters who are deluding themselves. I take them at their word, for example, that a hallmark of the senator’s politics is his tenacity on matters of principle. Consequently, I am skeptical of his assurances that he would appoint conservative judges who will apply rather than create law. Why? Because he has a recent, determined history of beseeching federal courts to disregard the First Amendment in furtherance of a dubious campaign-finance scheme in which he believes passionately. Conservative judges would (and have) rejected this scheme, just as they would (and have) rejected another signature McCain position: the extension of Geneva Convention protections for jihadists.

Now, the appointment of conservative judges is a crucial issue — one McCain posits as central to why we should prefer him to Obama and Clinton. Thus supporters breezily wave off such concerns, maintaining that McCain both promises there will be no issue-based litmus tests for judicial nominees and has conservatives of impeccable legal credentials advising him.

But for me to conclude McCain would surely appoint conservative judges, I also have to believe campaign-finance and the Geneva Convention weren’t all that big a deal to him after all — a possibility that runs counter to everything McCain’s fans tell us about his fidelity to principle. He’s fought tirelessly for years, in the teeth of blistering criticism, to establish campaign-finance regulations, and I’m now supposed to believe he’ll just shrug his shoulders and meekly name judges who’ll torpedo the whole enterprise — all in the name of upholding a judicial philosophy I’m not even sure he grasps? How exactly is it deranged to have my doubts?

And, of course, that’s not all. McCain points out that he supported the Supreme Court nominations of Justices Roberts and Alito; but he blocked the appointment of Pentagon general counsel Jim Haynes to the Fourth Circuit, and his “Gang of 14” deal was the death knell for several other Bush judicial nominations. He says he’s learned his lesson on immigration “reform,” but he won’t rule out signing the disastrous McCain/Kennedy bill if it were to cross his desk in the Oval Office. He now says he opposes the Law of the Sea Treaty and its assault on American sovereignty, but he used to be an ardent supporter. He told National Review he didn’t foresee pushing for further campaign-finance legislation, but that was when he was unsuccessfully urging the federal courts to impose further restrictions on speech — and, as president, he would have the power to appoint aggressive Federal Election Commission regulators. He points to his long pro-life record, but his campaign-finance crusade included a years-long effort to suppress the pro-life message, and he supported government funding of stem-cell research that called for destroying human embryos. He claims to be for small government but he contemplates government regulation of everything from light bulbs to professional sports, even as his immigration proposals would crush state health-care and education budgets. While some of McCain’s supporters claim he has consistently opposed tax increases, his Kyoto-style proposal on global warming would actually result in the most enormous tax-increase in American history (while doing little, if anything, about climate change); and, relatedly, though McCain now says he supports making the Bush tax cuts permanent, he was one of their most vigorous opponents.

To be clear, I have never argued that no true conservative could support McCain — a commonly repeated strawman in the “derangement” indictment. The GOP field featured many accomplished candidates, but it was not a grand set of choices for the Right. The candidate most wedded to our orthodoxy, Sen. Fred Thompson, was late to the race and never really got out of the starting block. Mayor Rudy Giuliani (whom I originally supported) was conservative in many ways but, like McCain, listed serial apostasies in his ledger. The conservatism of Gov. Mitt Romney (to whom I later gravitated) was, in several particulars, of recent vintage, spawning concerns about his authenticity. Gov. Mike Huckabee, a peerless advocate for life and other core social-conservative causes, sounds more like a Democrat on the economy, governed like one when it came to taxes and pardons, and often seems at sea on national-security issues.

Conservatives had to pick someone. For all his flaws, no candidate could match Sen. McCain’s singular leadership in preventing an American defeat in Iraq. None came close to his heroism in service to the United States. And, in two decades in the Senate, he has sided with conservatives on about four out of every five votes — a rate that cannot camouflage the gravity of his departures but ought not be dismissed out of hand either. I found at least three of the other candidates more appealing than the self-professed “maverick.” That, however, does not mean it was irrational for other conservatives to come to a different conclusion — and though some now prescribe mere opposition to McCain as a form of febrile lunacy, I never suggested otherwise.

So, when McCain became inevitable on “Super Tuesday,” I resigned myself to reality in short order. That, I’ve always thought, is democracy in America: You do your best to persuade, you hope to win, but you don’t take your ball and go home if you lose.

There remains a rational case to continue rejecting McCain. We are, after all, electing a government, not just a president. I strongly suspect the conservative movement and Republicans in Congress would perform better if set against a Democrat president than in an uneasy alliance with McCain. Thus it’s not a simple matter of determining whether McCain is superior to Obama or Clinton; the question is whether he is so much better that we should tolerate the heavy cost of a movement and a party less disposed to fight a President McCain on the several flawed policy preferences he shares with Democrats.

That’s far from a no-brainer. But for me, the question must be resolved in McCain’s favor because of the war. Our troops in harm’s way deserve the best commander-in-chief we have it in our power to give them; the American people deserve the most vigilant protection against a rabid enemy we have it in our power to give them. For these purposes, McCain is measurably superior to Obama and Clinton. That doesn’t mean my reservations are any less real; they are just comparatively (and barely) less important.

By Wednesday, then, I was resigned to the senator’s being not just the nominee but our nominee. On Thursday, when Gov. Mitt Romney graciously stepped aside, I was glad. I don’t see myself ever being a McCain enthusiast, but by Thursday afternoon, I’d even gotten to the point of offering his campaign what I hoped was constructive advice on taking a leadership role in the current debate over intelligence reform.

But I’m no longer so sure. McCain’s supporters continue to mock thoughtful, good-faith critics as “deranged.” The principal objects of scorn are such conservative talk-radio icons as Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Laura Ingraham, and Sean Hannity. A number of those folks are friends of mine, and, indeed, I appeared on a couple of their programs in the run-up to Super Tuesday. The discussion wasn’t “deranged.” I’m not deranged, and neither are they.

The McCain forces assert that ordinary Republican voters are roundly rejecting us naysayers. Really? That claim is even more demonstrably false today than it was a week ago.

Before last Tuesday, when he became inevitable, about two out of every three Republicans were voting against McCain. This past Saturday, despite having outlasted all meaningful opposition, McCain was humiliated when three out of every four Republicans cast ballots against him in the states of Washington (which he somehow “won”) and Kansas (where he was drubbed). To add insult to insult, McCain was also defeated in Louisiana by the likable but hopeless Huckabee, whose campaign at this point is an eccentricity. For Huck, that is; for the rest of us, it is a window on smoldering dissent — and a harbinger of catastrophe to come when one factors in the Republicans who are staying home while Democrats stampede to the polls in eye-popping numbers.

McCain’s only chance, a slim one, is to galvanize the very people his acolytes seem bent on antagonizing. That means allaying deep-seated conservative doubt. A powerful senator not exactly famous for listening to his detractors will need some convincing on that score — some understanding that, as Saturday’s primaries fairly screamed, he’s got a lot more work to do.

McCain’s fans do their candidate no favors by telling him the only people who can save his candidacy are unhinged.

And they do themselves no favors. There’s a battle on the horizon for the future of conservatism. On one side are those who revere unchanging principles, especially a healthy suspicion of government. On the other are those who would refine old principles under the guise of adapting them to new situations — those apt to see government more as a force for good than a necessary evil.

Sen. McCain runs in the latter circles. There, principally, is where he finds his conservative support. If he allows his campaign to become a referendum, pitting the tried-and-true against self-consciously evolved strains of “compassionate” and “national greatness” conservatism, November will look an awful lot like Saturday night.


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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

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121 posted on 02/11/2008 7:49:34 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: puroresu
IS RACISM LURKING IN THE McCAIN CANDIDACY? DEMOCRATS CHARGE McCAIN WITH USING SEXIST, ANTI-WOMAN TACTICS.

To be fair those headlines are going to appear for any Republican candidate.

122 posted on 02/11/2008 7:52:19 AM PST by CharacterCounts
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To: kjo

I vote for Ziyi Zhang, but I’ve got a thing for Asian chicks!


123 posted on 02/11/2008 7:52:21 AM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Someone help-me-out here! Is Republicanism synonymous with Conservatism. If not, when did that end. I’m neither Republican nor democrat but I must know!


124 posted on 02/11/2008 7:56:18 AM PST by old school
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To: old school
Republicanism synonymous with Conservatism. If not, when did that end.

Many conservatives realized this when "compassionate conservatism" was coined by Bush in 2000.

Slowly but surely, we realized we were snookered.

125 posted on 02/11/2008 7:59:07 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: The Great RJ
I'm afraid I have to agree with you.

This isn't 1980, and there's not a Ronald Reagan on the horizon to save the country from a disastrous Democrat presidency.

The Democrat party of the 21st century, particularly with strong majorities in the House and Senate, will not only impose their socialistic dreams on the country, I'm convinced they will see to it that no Republican gets elected to anything beyond Soil and Water Conservation District for generations.

126 posted on 02/11/2008 8:03:17 AM PST by daler
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To: F15Eagle

I’m confused. You praise McCain, yet complain about the MCCAIN
“shamnesty Debacle” in the same post. That’s odd.


127 posted on 02/11/2008 8:03:48 AM PST by Politicalmom (Better a leftist Dem with energized GOP opposition, than a leftist "Republican" with no opposition.)
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To: tomnbeverly
Sometimes it is wiser to lose a little then to lose a lot... If you are completely out of the game you have no chance to regroup and come back.. good luck

Interesting statement and one worthy of further study.

Let us expand a bit.
Sometimes it is wiser to lose a little then to lose a lot...

Well, an adherent of Sun Zu would say that that is correct, and that this also applies to a longer view, as well.
So, is it not then correct, at least in part, to state that we need to to let the GOP elites lose a little bit and thus move them out of power a bit, rather than us?
For, make no mistake, it is us who are being pushed aside.

To put it bluntly, It is time to kill off these people.
We face more lethal enemies than just the liberal trash in the democrat party. - We have these K Street boys running the show now with their own agenda that conflicts directly with ours, and, to me, they are the more important enemy.
We either do that, or we are now consigned to the trash bin of the GOP political future.

If you are completely out of the game you have no chance to regroup and come back.. good luck.
Yes. with McCain, we are. They are “rebranding “ the word and concept of conservatism, and we either reject that or we have already lost.

Against hillary, McCain will lose 30 -34 states. Maybe only 29.
Contrary to popular feelings now days, I believe that Obama is certainly beatable in the General due to a number of intrinsic factors.

Naturally, these are only my opinions, and I find both weight and merit to your statements. Thank you - bill

128 posted on 02/11/2008 8:04:19 AM PST by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: tomnbeverly

At least you realize it was a dream.

The writer of this article is dead right on. McCain has secured the nomination, no doubt. But he is in really deep trouble for the general election.

I am stunned thinking he may have to move to the RIGHT if he wants to win.

I don’t like McCain. Voting for him will take some convincing. He can start by picking a real conservative VEEP. And then move from there back to the wing of the party that matters: the right wing.


130 posted on 02/11/2008 8:09:52 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Nervous Tick

I did read the article and I didn’t order you to do anything... Take a pill please before you bust something

anyway... I am not a McCainiac... blindly led McCain supporter... I am using logic instead of emotion to try and get you to think about the alternatives.

I agree with you and the article that McCain’s position give us little hope that he will somehow change his viewpoints on Conservatism so he is not going to be good for the Conservative movement.

However, I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and at least listen to him because I feel that the number one issue facing this country is the threat of Islamic Jihad and everything else is moot...

Obama and Clinton have both made their positions on this clear... Retreat and defeat and then blame the historical consequences on Bush.

That I cannot live with because who knows who’s family will be affected in the next attack.

besides Obama will eradicate Conservatism completely because he simply states that Conservatives are what divides America and he uses Civil Rights era Rhetoric to do it...

Therefore Conservatives will be painted as the KKK of Politics and therefore dismissed by 80 percent of the country....

The writing is on the wall... You figure out how best to handle it.


131 posted on 02/11/2008 8:15:21 AM PST by tomnbeverly (If Islamic Jihad is an existential threat then the candidate that should be POTUS is a no brainer.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

McCain’s best hope is to round up all his supporters and get them up on election day. Only problem is, they’d all have to switch parties in order to support him.


132 posted on 02/11/2008 8:39:22 AM PST by Def Conservative (In the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade-John McCain)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Keep right on posting. You're brilliantly providing an answer to the author's original question ("Are John McCain’s supporters trying to drive conservatives away from their candidate?"). Oftentimes, it the quiet, little ironies life provides us, daily, which (ultimately) prove the most deeply satisfying. ;)

LOL! Beat me to it.

Delicious irony.

133 posted on 02/11/2008 8:41:54 AM PST by browardchad
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To: Nervous Tick

Accepting McCain in 08, and we’ll accept Arlen Specter or Lincoln Chaffee (God forbid he comes back) in 2012...besides they ARE more conservative than the liberals. The difference between conservatives and liberals is we stand on principle. When Bill Clinton sold liberals out after losing battle after battle to Gingrich, liberals still supported him and did until he attacked their Mesiah, Obama. We put principles over party while some here would vote for Hillary if she switched parties today.

BTW, Chris Peden rocks! I’ve moved from Houston lately, but i’ve heard some of the best stuff about him.


134 posted on 02/11/2008 8:46:19 AM PST by Def Conservative (In the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade-John McCain)
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To: tomnbeverly

>> Therefore Conservatives will be painted as the KKK of Politics and therefore dismissed by 80 percent of the country....

An equally valid hypothetical is this: McCain gets elected; he fails in numerous ways (combination of his screwups plus a recession, say, that may or may not be all his fault). The dems paint his moderate-to-liberal administration as a failure of CONSERVATIVISM, thus defining DOWN the idea of what actually comprises conservatism. And then they proceed to defeat even that defined-down conservative, thus setting conservatism back who knows how far. BAD BAD BAD.

>> The writing is on the wall... You figure out how best to handle it.

Oh, trust me, I am. I say again, at this point I am opposed to McCain but I am keeping my eyes open and studying the situation. Your RECENT opinions are helpful in that regard. But blindly slapping down anyone who isn’t kneejerk FOR mccain, as in your earliest post on this thread, is NOT particularly helpful.


135 posted on 02/11/2008 8:55:05 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Retire Ron Paul! Support Chris Peden (www.chrispeden.org))
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To: GVnana

“If he supports conservative judges — as he says he will, and I’m inclined to believe him— McCain-Feingold will die in the courts. No?”

Unfortunately, no. McCain’s idea of a constructionist judge is one who will uphold laws made by Congress, regardless of their Constiutionality.

The exact quote from McCain’s CPAC speech should send a shiver down the spine of any conservative:

“I intend to nominate judges who have proven themselves worthy of our trust that they take as their sole responsibility the enforcement of laws made by the people’s elected representatives”

It’s evident from that statement that McCain’s litmus test is that he would nominate judges who would uphold McCain-Feingold and any other legislation coming out of Congress. By no stretch of the imagination does that litmus test possibly include any strict constructionist judges, who by definition, respect the First Amendment.

The judges who ruled against McCain-Feingold: Roberts, Alito, Kennedy, Scalia and Thomas. Don’t expect McCain to nominate judges like them.


136 posted on 02/11/2008 8:56:20 AM PST by LadyNavyVet (“I will offer a choice, not an echo.” Barry Goldwater)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

For later.


137 posted on 02/11/2008 8:58:30 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Def Conservative

>> BTW, Chris Peden rocks!

Glad to hear you think so!

Send him a few bucks if you can. He deserves it, and he’ll need it to defeat ElRon.


138 posted on 02/11/2008 8:59:38 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Retire Ron Paul! Support Chris Peden (www.chrispeden.org))
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To: LadyNavyVet

>> they take as their sole responsibility the enforcement of laws made by the people’s elected representatives

HOO BOY! McCain is utterly wrong here! And it’s scary that he believes it. I’m glad you pointed that out.

Direct conflict with the wording of the Bill of Rights, first amendment: “Congress shall make no law...”

In other words, the role of the court is to protect US from the ravages of Congress!!!


139 posted on 02/11/2008 9:04:23 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Retire Ron Paul! Support Chris Peden (www.chrispeden.org))
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

McCain Estrangement Syndrome (”Headed for a Defeat of McGovernite Dimensions...”)


;o)


140 posted on 02/11/2008 9:08:19 AM PST by Grunthor (Unlike the Republican Party, this conservatives' principles MEAN SOMETHING!)
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