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Don’t ask, don’t tell: Area 51 gets airport identifier
Aircraft Owners & Pilots Association ^ | Alton K. Marsh

Posted on 02/09/2008 3:17:57 PM PST by maquiladora

Pilots avert your eyes! The airport identifier and location of Nevada’s Groom Lake—you know, where they keep the space aliens at Area 51—has been appearing in flight-planning software and on handheld GPS receivers for most of the past year as KXTA (standing for what, extraterrestrial?).

“We already know and it doesn’t matter,” said a public affairs official at Nellis Air Force Base.

The Jeppesen FliteStar flight-planning program and AOPA's Real-Time Flight Planner even identify it as Homey Airport and add, “Private, VFR, No Fee, Customs Info Unavailable.” Well, there’s a fee. The airport is deep within heavily restricted airspace, guarded by fighter jets. First come the legal fees, the probable confiscation of your aircraft, and a personal fee in the form of jail time.

AOPA editors found KXTA clearly marked on a handheld GPS map drawn from an outdated August 2007 database. Runways are described as Runway 12-30, 5,420 feet by 120 feet, and Runway 14-32, 12,000 feet by 200 feet. That’s not quite true. One end of 14-32 continues across a dry lakebed for another 11,000 feet, but that portion is closed and partially covered with blowing sand. And there are four additional runways marked in the sand of the dry lakebed.

How do we know that? A picture of Groom Lake has been on Google Earth for years and the latest time stamps show it was updated in 2007. Photos of the place have been shown publicly since the late 1980s.

Groom Lake was outed by the Clinton Administration, which admitted only that it exists after workers filed lawsuits, claiming their health was harmed by working there. That admission of the area’s existence became necessary to handle the case in court.

While it is highly unlikely that pilots would intentionally seek to end their flying careers by raiding Homey, we can’t say the same for student pilots who may have learned only yesterday what restricted airspace is. Students, KXTA does not make a good waypoint and it’s not your friend.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: area51; aviation; groomlake
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ET phone Homey Airport?

1 posted on 02/09/2008 3:18:02 PM PST by maquiladora
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To: maquiladora

The runways are long so they could run commercial aircraft up to 300mph before lifting off.

(That’s probably what they’d say.)


2 posted on 02/09/2008 3:22:25 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: maquiladora; Quix; Las Vegas Dave; texas_mrs

FYI


4 posted on 02/09/2008 3:29:41 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Whatever happened to No Neck Joe?)
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To: maquiladora

The satellite photo a few miles to the west of the one you posted is allot more interesting.


5 posted on 02/09/2008 3:38:55 PM PST by Joiseydude
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To: wastedyears

What a tagline!


6 posted on 02/09/2008 3:44:17 PM PST by brivette
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To: Joiseydude

Hmm? Do you mean the so called “S-4” location?


7 posted on 02/09/2008 3:46:35 PM PST by maquiladora
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To: maquiladora

$ or 5 miles to the southwest of Groom Lake. Can’t miss it, looks like the moon.


8 posted on 02/09/2008 3:52:33 PM PST by Joiseydude
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To: Joiseydude

$ = 4


9 posted on 02/09/2008 3:53:00 PM PST by Joiseydude
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To: Joiseydude
Can’t miss it, looks like the moon.

You mean the place where they filmed the moon landings? [/grin]

10 posted on 02/09/2008 3:58:41 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Quix

((((Ping!))))


11 posted on 02/09/2008 3:59:44 PM PST by yorkie
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To: F15Eagle
I thought all alien spacecraft were VTOL

Alien spacecraft don't land. They hover and extend ladders, and only appear in desolate places.

12 posted on 02/09/2008 4:02:19 PM PST by Ole Okie
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To: PAR35

Go a little further west and find the area that appears blood red.


13 posted on 02/09/2008 4:06:05 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

Thanks, thanks.


14 posted on 02/09/2008 4:09:59 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Kirkwood

Very interesting. Large area that you can’t zoom in as close as you can veiwing Groom Lake.


15 posted on 02/09/2008 4:10:39 PM PST by Joiseydude
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To: Joiseydude

Would you be willing to provide the link, please?


16 posted on 02/09/2008 4:10:52 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=aerial&ie=UTF8&ll=37.252945,-116.496964&spn=0.030812,0.05785&t=h&z=14&om=0


17 posted on 02/09/2008 4:15:09 PM PST by Joiseydude
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To: maquiladora

Oh no.....send snail mail !

Area 51
Groom Lake Rd
Amargosa Valley, NV 89020

They love Christmas Cards !


18 posted on 02/09/2008 4:18:44 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: maquiladora

They can spy on it all they want...

Area 52 is in Utah...so I heard (sweating).


19 posted on 02/09/2008 4:18:54 PM PST by max americana
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To: Joiseydude
The "moonscape" area is, of course, where the majority of CONUS nuclear tests took place. There is one enormous crater there, which was created by the Sedan test, which explored the use of nuclear weapons for excavation purposes.


20 posted on 02/09/2008 4:30:32 PM PST by r9etb
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