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The Right Is Wrong on McCain
The Wall Street Journal ^ | February 9, 2008 | Robert McFarlane

Posted on 02/09/2008 10:32:20 AM PST by TenYearLurker

There's an old Groucho Marx riff in which he launches a new career as a stick-up artist -- while worrying that his native cowardice may not induce the requisite fear among his victims. Sure enough, after a little time in a dark alley he springs out to confront his first victim, points his gun to his own head and says, "Take one step closer and I'll kill myself."

Such is the posture today among pundits on the far right of the Republican Party as Sen. John McCain moves closer to receiving his party's nomination. Consider the destructive implications of their pledge to work against Mr. McCain's nomination and even -- in the event he is nominated -- not to vote in the general election. Start with where it would leave our country -- presumably under the leadership of either Democrat candidate -- in the two domains where we will face critical challenges in the years ahead: our national security and the threat of an economic meltdown.

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To: Racehorse

“I thought he pretty much already did that with his “I got the message / secure the borders first.”

No, that was far from good enough.


81 posted on 02/09/2008 11:38:57 AM PST by devere
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To: Iscool
main-iac-McCain-iac...Hmmm You guys tell us that Hunter wasn’t electable and now you are begging us to vote for your ‘un-electable liberal??? HaHa...

Two wrong assumption in one short post. LOL

No. 1: I live in the state of Maine - having nothing to do with my being a McC supporter. He is about the last one I wanted to see left standing - but that's the hand we're dealt.

"You guys" - I never said anything negative about Hunter - your blanket accusations says a lot about you.

"HaHa"

82 posted on 02/09/2008 11:39:23 AM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: TenYearLurker

This is rich... being mavericks is now destructive... NOT even the Clinton spin misters got close to this spin...

Suddenly things these twits ignored year in and year out NOW matter?


83 posted on 02/09/2008 11:39:59 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: TenYearLurker
Other than complete the war effort in ME the author has said nothing of substance other that Juan is “da man.” The only other points he mentions are…

- Provide market-based incentives to justify the essential re-tooling of our automobile industry to enable it to produce flexible-fuel, plug-in hybrid electric cars and trucks, using carbon composite materials (as Boeing is doing in the new 787 airliner);

- Accelerate the commercial production of cellulosic ethanol, butanol and other bio-fuels; and

- License new nuclear power plants.

These are things that given the authority, a high school class could handle quite nicely. What are the things that are not mentioned?

McCain’s the candidate of amnesty for illegal aliens.


McCain supports embryonic stem-cell research.


McCain has said “I would not support repeal of Roe vs. Wade”.


McCain opposed the Bush tax cuts, and refuses to sign the “No New Taxes” pledge.


McCain supports legislation that would increase taxes on energy.


McCain was the ring-leader of the Senate “Gang of 14”, which kept the then Senate Republican leadership from ending the ability of Democrats to filibuster Bush’s judicial nominees.


McCain supports legislation to grant due-process rights to terrorists.


McCain sponsored the inept legislation which restricts free-speech rights of those involved in the political process, (the McCain/Feingold bill)


McCain called evangelical-conservatives an “evil influence” on the Republican Party.


McCain - member of the Keating 5 that caused a bipartisan scandal during the S&L meltdown.


McCain had a recall election ran against him by the conservatives in Arizona.


McCain blocked the investigation into whether Viet Nam and the Soviets were still holding over 600 of our missing POWs in 1990.


The shilling for McCain is already tiresome and we are still very much in the middle of the primaries for crying out loud. And the shills are refusing to say the “A” word.

Amnesty.

And the entire drive to install MxCain in the President’s office is to get that done.

84 posted on 02/09/2008 11:40:13 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Eva

I sincerely believe McCain was addled by his time in the Hanoi Hilton,

making him incapable of treating illegal combatants in the manner we need to.


85 posted on 02/09/2008 11:40:37 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: tumblindice
You asked “what kind of showing is required . . . “ I offered three types of showings,

I'm sorry. As anyone who differs with me can readily tell you, I'm not too bright and I'm apt to be slow. I could not understand your "showings." I tried to explain why, because I really did want to understand.

See postings from MNJohnnie and devere, a few messages back. I'm pretty sure we're on opposite sides of this dispute, but they provided the kind of objective criteria I'm looking for.

Much thanks for trying,
R.

86 posted on 02/09/2008 11:44:38 AM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Racehorse

How has he “got the message” when he also said that he would sign the amnesty bill if it came across his desk???


87 posted on 02/09/2008 11:44:43 AM PST by ReluctantDragon
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To: old school

“Is McCain a child-molester or serial murderer?”

He is a serial conservatism basher.


88 posted on 02/09/2008 11:49:41 AM PST by devere
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To: MNJohnnie
An adult mind learns from a justly earned rebuke. A childish one screams louder. Grow up.

So - did you learn anything from your "justly earned rebuke" from the moderator - per your purged post # 52? (for anyone that would like to read how 'adult' this poster is, you can read part of his/her deleted post in my post # 68...


89 posted on 02/09/2008 11:49:47 AM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: maine-iac7
I hate to be redundant, but:

McCain Fiendold, McCain Kennedy, McCain Lieberman. McCAin Edwards

Opposed overturning Roe v. Wade, Would not have nominated Ailto, Gang of 14, Opposed Tax cuts for the “rich”, Opposed repeal of death tax. More recently, Mr. McCain has told conservatives he would be happy to appoint the likes of Chief Justice John Roberts to the Supreme Court.

“But he indicated he might draw the line on a Samuel Alito, because ‘he wore his conservatism on his sleeve.’

“Therein lies the problem that many conservatives have with John McCain.

“It is the nagging feeling that after all of his years of chummily bonding with liberal reporters and garnering favorable media coverage from them that the Arizona senator is embarrassed to be seen as too much of a conservative. …”

On Roe v. Wade, here is another McCain Gem,

WASHINGTON (Sept. 13) - Senator John McCain (R-Az.), a leading contender for the Republican nomination for President, said on August 19, “Certainly in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe vs. Wade,” the Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion on demand.

On Taxes, McCain sounds pretty much the same as Teddy Kennedy. I invite your attention to the following.

Second, Senator McCain’s stated reason for opposing the Bush tax cuts rhetorically allied him with the most radical anti-growth elements of national politics. Senator McCain argued, “I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us at the expense of middle-class Americans who need tax relief.”[7] Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA) sounded a similar theme, saying, “Now, they are proposing more of the same, more tax breaks benefiting only the wealthiest among us,”[8] as did Democratic Representative Maxine Waters (CA-35): “I voted against the Republican tax cut plan, which is an irresponsible tax cut that will further undermine the nation’s struggling economy at the expense of middle-class American families.”[9] Senator McCain’s eager embrace of grossly inaccurate class-warfare demagoguery demonstrated, at best, a painful ignorance of pro-growth economic principles.

Third, Senator McCain not only voted against the Bush tax cuts, he joined leading liberal senators in offering and voting for amendments designed to undermine them. All in all, Senator McCain voted on the pro-tax side of 14 such amendments in 2001 and 2003. These included such odious measures as:

An amendment sponsored by Senator John D. Rockefeller (D-WV) to prohibit a reduction in the top tax rate until Congress enacted legislation to provide a prescription drug benefit[10] An amendment sponsored by Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI) against full repeal of the Death Tax.[11] This vote is in keeping with Senator McCain’s 2002 vote against repealing the Death Tax[12] An amendment sponsored by Tom Daschle (D-SD) and co-sponsored by Senator McCain to limit tax reduction in the top tax bracket to one percentage point[13].

Finally, John McCain recently claimed that he has never voted for a tax increase,[14] but the congressional record tells a different story. As Chairman of the Commerce Committee in 1998, he sponsored and voted for an enormous 282% tax increase on cigarettes.[15] Senator McCain defended the proposal as a “fee”[16] rather than a tax increase, but his semantic tap dance doesn’t change the numerical facts.

90 posted on 02/09/2008 11:51:07 AM PST by MrPiper
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To: TenYearLurker
Thanks for the post. I remember my respect for McFarlane when he related about the power of Frank Capra’s IT’S A WONDERFUL LIFE (a script with an amazing historical bloodline) and said the movie helped him out of suicide.

(This was back when Capra’s films were first being released on VHS, etc.)

Sounds schmaltzy, but anyone who loves Frank Capra, I love. John Cassavettes once wrote: "Was there ever really an America? Or was there just Frank Capra?”

Reagan stole a lot of Capra’s lines for his speeches. We Freepers should realize that much of that old time patriotism is what fomented McCain’s personality -- and get behind the man. Glad to hear Robert McFarlane is smart enough to get it about both McCain and Frank Capra.

91 posted on 02/09/2008 11:53:03 AM PST by IreneE (Live for nothing or die for something.)
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To: maine-iac7
Hmm didn’t care to be told to grow up did you?

Then why did you think it would be perfectly ok to come here and scream at Conservatives to grow up?

They are the grown ups in this one. They are looking at the McCain record and making a mature adult decision. They have no reason to support a guy who has done nothing but actively work against their political agenda for the last decade.

If he wants their votes, he is going to have to earn them. Unlike childish minds, they will not be scared into voting for him with bogymen politics.

92 posted on 02/09/2008 11:56:05 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Reagan's 11th Commandment is now in effect)
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To: IreneE
We Freepers should realize that much of that old time patriotism is what fomented McCain’s personality -- and get behind the man. Glad to hear Robert McFarlane is smart enough to get it about both McCain and Frank Capra.

I agree with both sentences . . . very, very much so.

93 posted on 02/09/2008 12:02:42 PM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: TenYearLurker
Surely Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter can agree that these challenges are terribly demanding and cannot be left to luck or divine providence. Finally, there is the cost of their extremist rhetoric to the Republican Party.

Extemist rhetoric? Washington-insider rhetoric is what the writer is spewing. Limbaugh, Hannity, Ingraham & Coulter are in touch with voters, something about which this writer is clueless. John McCain has had no use for conservatives - religious or non-religious - during his entire political career. But now that he needs us, we should all just support him - for the sake of our country and our freedom. Such elitist crap. What is becoming more and more obvious is that the DC establishment is pretty much party-neutral. There really aren't too many principled conservatives, so under McCain & Co the Republican party now stands for..."Let's All Just Try To Get Along, Shall We?"

94 posted on 02/09/2008 12:06:17 PM PST by floozy22
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Suicide is picking a traitor to lead your own party.

Suicide is something the author (McFarlane) and the subject (McCain) have both attempted and failed.

factoid.

95 posted on 02/09/2008 12:09:51 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: DManA
WSJ loves open boarders so it’s no surprise they love McCain.

That the poobahs of Wall Street think that they'll remain unharmed when society breaks down upon the inception of open borders really is the height of hubris.

I despise the beast, but do they really think Reagan democrats will stay loyal to the GOP and won't demand a pound of flesh from them when their policies make them into serfs and peasants?

History really does repeat itself; first as tragedy and then as farce, again and again and again and again.

96 posted on 02/09/2008 12:10:26 PM PST by E. Cartman (Huckaboob will never be Vice President.)
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To: Racehorse
We Freepers should realize that much of that old time patriotism is what fomented McCain’s personality

As well as many other Demorats.

and get behind the man.

No thanks, See post#90.

97 posted on 02/09/2008 12:15:25 PM PST by MrPiper
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To: Texas Gal
If he successfully caused the McCain-Feingold legislation to be totally repealed before the election, I might have to reassess.

YES!!! And put through a constitutional amendment establishing that children born in this country to parents of illegal aliens were not American citizens. Plus, put through legislation putting the American military on our southern border with orders to shoot to kill.

ONLY then would I consider voting for him. ONLY then would I believe he really had had a change of heart. As the saying goes, words are cheap, but deeds speak loudly. And, John McCain's deeds speak far, far louder than his words.

98 posted on 02/09/2008 12:17:12 PM PST by E. Cartman (Huckaboob will never be Vice President.)
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To: E. Cartman
If he successfully caused the McCain-Feingold legislation to be totally repealed before the election, I might have to reassess.

YES!!! And put through a constitutional amendment establishing that children born in this country to parents of illegal aliens were not American citizens. Plus, put through legislation putting the American military on our southern border with orders to shoot to kill.

Yes, I would consider voting for the man IF he did the above. But neither he or Hillary or OSama will. Three peas in a pod.

99 posted on 02/09/2008 12:23:14 PM PST by MrPiper
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To: MrPiper
No thanks, See post#90

Who will you get behind?

100 posted on 02/09/2008 12:23:15 PM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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