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The Abolition of Man? How Politics and Culture Have Been Dehumanized in the Name of Science
Heritage Foundation ^ | 2/7/08 | John G West, Ph.D.

Posted on 02/09/2008 9:48:21 AM PST by wagglebee

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Whatever his own personal moral preferences, Darwin's reductionistic account of the development of morality left little room for objectively preferring one society's morality over another's. Each society's moral code presumably developed to promote the survival of that society, and so each society's moral code could be considered equally "natural."

And this is EXACTLY the problem that society is facing today.

1 posted on 02/09/2008 9:48:26 AM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 02/09/2008 9:49:56 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 02/09/2008 9:50:34 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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The insistence on bring humans down to the level of the animal has been devastating. We now know that the 98%-99% claim of similarity between man and apes is a lie or in the kindest terms very misleading but it is still parroted on the media as if it is a fact. I’m not anti-evolution but I believe that it is clearly directed. The mechanisms of DNA and the biology of life on planet Earth is exceedingly complex and far more so than ever dreamed.

We now can decode more than just a section of one chromosome. We also know now that “Junk DNA” wasn’t really junk at all and that epigenetic’s plays a huge role in the expression of genes. We also know that the process that lead to the increased size of the human brain was not a slow process but indeed a rapid one involving many genes. Humans also have less Chromosomes than Apes. We have 46 total and Apes have 48. It appears one human chromosome merged.

Regardless of whether one believes in undirected evolution or intelligent design the increasing evidence shows a vast gulf between apes and human beings and pretending otherwise only feed very bad assumptions concerning social sciences, drug testing, etc.

This all has fed into an Misantropic principle which feeds the current radical environmental movement, the sexual “devolution”(not revolution), and much of the screwed up backward thinking of our current time. Humanity needs to look for higher ground not obsess on finding philology with the lesser species on this planet.


4 posted on 02/09/2008 10:08:00 AM PST by Maelstorm (God never told us to build up government to offload the charity of our hearts.)
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lepton, you may be interested in this long, thoughtful article.


5 posted on 02/09/2008 10:26:17 AM PST by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*))
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John West, Ph.D., is a Senior Fellow at the Discovery Institute...

That's the place where my BS meter pegged.

Yessirree, folks. As soon as we started having appendectomies and using the ee-lec-tronical telephone, we moved away from God.

I guess I missed the 8 am handbasket

6 posted on 02/09/2008 10:26:34 AM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: wagglebee

Long read, but a good one. Politicians should have to sit in on this guys lectures!! We should replace diversity training with lectures from this man!


7 posted on 02/09/2008 10:35:56 AM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican! GoHunter.08)
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Scientific materialism--the claim that everything in the uni­verse can be fully explained by science as the prod­ucts of unintelligent matter and energy--has become the operating assumption for much of American politics and culture.

Not a good premise to blur distinctions between true science and "scientific materialism". True science, backed up by objective, traditional scientific methods and the laws of physics always come around as evidence of the truth of the Bible. This "scientific materialism" is just atheism with a pseudo-scientific cloak.

A good example of this pseudo-science is Darwinism and the discredited theory of evolution which has been thoroughly discredited and refuted by the application of objective scientific inquiry and the 2nd Law of Physics. The liberals teach it because the godless are not interested in the truth, but in predetermined "politically-correct" and philosophically humanistic results.

8 posted on 02/09/2008 10:38:57 AM PST by Jim W N
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"Ours is a scientific age, and it may be said with truth that we are all materialists now."[

The article trips over its premise at the start.

9 posted on 02/09/2008 10:40:41 AM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: wagglebee
C. S. Lewis' The Abolition of Man was the first of a handful of books that profoundly influenced me. I should re read it again after 25 years.
10 posted on 02/09/2008 10:55:35 AM PST by outofstyle (There's a rake at the gates of Hell tonight)
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11 posted on 02/09/2008 10:55:55 AM PST by steelyourfaith
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I am sending this article to several scientists I know. We had one send us a proposal to develop a water allocation policy based purely on her scientific assessment of the county. She has absolutley no feel for the economic and social forces that forged waterlaw over the past century and a half. She has no feel for the cultural and economic human systems that grew up around them. To her, it is simply a matter of scientifc assessment driving policies.

We have another saying that the County shouldn’t be included on a Council that will allocate grant funding to fisheries restoration projects - just the agency and tribal “scientists.” What they have no appreciation for is that (1) we have local land use authority; (2) These are privately owned lands they are dealing with and without voluntary cooperation, they have no restoration program at all. This requires an understanding of law, local culture, economic and leadership structures, an understanding of how changes are introduced and an enormous issue of trust.

Their typical solution to implementation is to use force.

I find on the whole that. although scientists can provide usefull information on how biological and geological systems work, they are clueless to the fact that management occurs in the context of human systems.


12 posted on 02/09/2008 11:16:54 AM PST by marsh2
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I find on the whole that. although scientists can provide usefull information on how biological and geological systems work, they are clueless to the fact that management occurs in the context of human systems.

Very true!

13 posted on 02/09/2008 11:19:25 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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I AM TAGGING TO WATCH LATER. Oops caps was on!


14 posted on 02/09/2008 11:19:51 AM PST by killermedic ("discipline isn’t reserved for times of combat....only tested there.")
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btt


15 posted on 02/09/2008 11:32:18 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: wagglebee

Nailed it.

BTTT


16 posted on 02/09/2008 11:41:31 AM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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Mark for reading.
17 posted on 02/09/2008 11:47:22 AM PST by stripes1776 ("I will not be persuaded that any good can come from Arabia" --Petrarca)
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ping for later


18 posted on 02/09/2008 11:48:49 AM PST by a_chronic_whiner
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A good example of this pseudo-science is Darwinism and the discredited theory of evolution which has been thoroughly discredited and refuted by the application of objective scientific inquiry and the 2nd Law of Physics.

You don't perhaps mean the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, do you?

And no, it does not refute the theory of evolution.

Perhaps you should learn a little science before you try to lecture folks on it, eh?

19 posted on 02/09/2008 1:07:11 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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In sex education, the depiction of human sexu­ality as little more than mammalian behavior reduced human beings to the level of animals and drained human relationships of the moral and spiritual context that gave them their deep­est meaning. ( from the article.)
20 posted on 02/09/2008 2:39:53 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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