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Toledo Mayor to Marines: Drop dead
Pajamas Media ^ | 02/09/2008 | Roger Kimball

Posted on 02/09/2008 8:00:26 AM PST by coffee260

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To: freema; jazusamo; Marine_Uncle; ASOC; RockinRight; Chgogal

Staff Sgt. Andre Davis talks to his commanding officer as he leaves the Madison Building after Mayor Carty Finkbeiner requested that the Marines leave the downtown location.

Before he left downtown for Perrysburg Township, Major O'Neill said he was not sure what type of training, if any, his unit could undertake without access to downtown Toledo.

"But we're Marines," Major O'Neill said. "We'll adapt and overcome."

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61 posted on 02/09/2008 10:39:13 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: coffee260
The mayor asked them to leave because they frighten people,” said Brian Schwartz, the mayor’s spokesman.

Amazing!!! I live in urban Minneapolis. If four or forty bus loads of Marines descended on Minneapolis for a training exercise, I'm quite certain it wouldn't frighten me. It might fascinate me to the nth degree. If I could find some perch to watch any part of the training, I would truly enjoy that. No, no, it wouldn't frighten me.

I find it difficult to believe that ANY American citizen would say the "US Marines" frighten him...or her.

This proves once again, Democrats support the military, it's the sailors, soldiers and marines they hate.

62 posted on 02/09/2008 10:51:19 AM PST by stevem
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To: george76; RBurke

Thanks for the ping, george76 and the link to the mayors office, RBurke. Email sent!


63 posted on 02/09/2008 10:58:39 AM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: LeonardFMason

On the bright side, when the dirty bombs start going off, and the strapped homicide bombers begin taking out bus stations, it won’t be out here in the Republican countryside.

It will be where the scumbag Democrats don’t want the Marines.

Que sera se-friggin-ra....


64 posted on 02/09/2008 11:12:29 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: coffee260

Nice name, Finkbeiner.


65 posted on 02/09/2008 11:22:43 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Michigan Bowhunter

How about the same to the Ohio Gov , the two senators, the Commandant of the Marines Corps, etc, etc, etc?


66 posted on 02/09/2008 11:34:57 AM PST by PurpleMan
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To: george76

>> “But we’re Marines,” Major O’Neill said. “We’ll adapt and overcome.”

Insurgency training.


67 posted on 02/09/2008 11:39:01 AM PST by Gene Eric
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To: I see my hands

Did you see the poll on the newspaper site about spending rebate money in Toledo? 61% said they would not.


68 posted on 02/09/2008 11:40:58 AM PST by MamaB
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To: gardengirl
I certainly love the Marines and am as patriotic as the next fellow, but just to play "devils advocate", we can do a search on this type of subject during the Janet Reno years and find Conservatives saying much the same thing. At that time we were worried about Billy sending black helicopters after gun owners and others types of stuff. I seem to remember a few threads here about that very subject. Do you remember the survey he gave the military asking them if they would fire on citizens that refused to give up their guns?

This is most likely "Bush derangement" syndrome, just as we had Clinton "trust" issues at that time. Maybe having truckloads of Marines hitting your town going rooftop to rooftop isn't a good idea at anytime. Are they practicing for Iraq, or Houston?

Like I said, I love the military and trust Dubya, but we won't have him much longer. I just posted on another thread about Florida wanting to stop sales of "assault" weapons. ( Democrat bill) How would Floridians feel if they now saw Marines dispatched to their cities after a gun ban was passed?

69 posted on 02/09/2008 11:47:39 AM PST by chuckles
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Not everyone in Toledo is happy with this. The Marines had the permission from the Police who’d help set up the perimeter area for them. The Mayor, it appears, acted without consulting any members of city council. But then, he’s known for a ready-shoot-aim approach.

http://thurbersthoughts.blogspot.com/2008/02/marines-told-to-leave-toledo.html

I’d love to have copies of emails sent to the Mayor to mention on my radio show. You can send them to maggie at wspd dot com.


70 posted on 02/09/2008 11:52:52 AM PST by maggiethurber
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To: coffee260

Cut off any future federal CDBG (Community Development Block Grant) funding. That is a discretionary federal award. http://www.hud.gov/offices/cpd/communitydevelopment/programs/


71 posted on 02/09/2008 11:54:53 AM PST by marsh2
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To: chuckles

“...Are they practicing for Iraq, or Houston?...”

Given time and they way the country is going, maybe Houston.


72 posted on 02/09/2008 11:58:52 AM PST by 444Flyer (To all those who have fought for my right to post this freely, THANK YOU and God Bless.)
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To: RBurke

Thanks for the email address. I sent him what I think of him, both since I came from Ohio and am a Very Very Proud Marine Mom.


73 posted on 02/09/2008 12:04:24 PM PST by Ray'sBeth
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To: coffee260

We gotta make this guy the most famous politician in America- even bigger than Obama!


74 posted on 02/09/2008 12:20:49 PM PST by Krankor (kROGER)
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To: chuckles

You have to understand—we are used to seeing Marines train on a daily basis. They do all kinds of training here, from bombing runs to water landings to in the woods type of things. We are more uncomfortable when they’re not here.

As for rooftop training, we can’t help them much. Until recently the tallest thing around was the highrise bridge!

I hear what you’re saying, but living near Cherry Point, Camp Lejeune, Seymore Johnson, FT Bragg—gives us a different perspective on military.

Yes, lots of men with guns can be scary. As I said earlier, no biggie to us. Most of the guys here hunt all the time, so perhaps we’re jsut more used to the sight of weapons than others? As another poster said, we’re more apt to watch, or pay no attention at all. The Marines are here to protect us and they can’t do that without training.


75 posted on 02/09/2008 12:21:46 PM PST by gardengirl
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To: 444Flyer
That was my point for posting on this. You are a member since 2006. I’ve been here quite a bit longer. When Klintoon was POTUS, we made the same types of statements here. I’m sure this mayor is a jerk of the first degree, but when Waco burned down and Ruby Ridge made news, or the Gonzales boy from Cuba, we were saying the same types of things here.

It was leaked that the military had passed a survey amongst some of its units and asked them if they would shoot to kill US citizens if they were ordered to give up their guns and refused. This was about the time Britain lost their guns and Australia was talking about it. After Ruby Ridge and Waco, Freepers weren't feeling too safe with the "bent one" in charge. We had reports of "blue helmets"( The UN was voting to ban private ownership of guns) and "foreign looking" soldiers in convoys going across the country. It wasn't a pleasant time in our history. Supposedly the outcome of the survey to shoot citizens was in the single digits. I thought that was too high. Maybe a class in Constitutional law should be mandatory in Basic training now. They sure don't get it in High School.

76 posted on 02/09/2008 12:23:26 PM PST by chuckles
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
"there will be no consequences" - Ismh

"You are incorrect" -TSOA

What consequences will there be?


77 posted on 02/09/2008 12:25:06 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: I see my hands

What sacrifices are you willing to make?

The more you do what you’ve done, the more you’ll get what you’ve got.

If you’re willing to reallocate your discretionary buying habits, you can make a difference.


78 posted on 02/09/2008 12:36:46 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: chuckles

I see your point on the 2nd Amendment issue. I was actually thinking about some type of possible jihadist attack on one of our cities which would necessitate such training by the Marines.


79 posted on 02/09/2008 12:45:36 PM PST by 444Flyer (To all those who have fought for my right to post this freely, THANK YOU and God Bless.)
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To: maggiethurber

Maggiiiiieee! Ms. Eye-On-Toledo, welcome. ;) Thanks for the info.

Just checked out the blog at WSPD hoping to comment there, alas, no such capability. Decided not to shop in Toledo anymore...Maumee, Holland and Sylvania will work JUST fine.

(the traffic light cameras is the other reason)


80 posted on 02/09/2008 12:53:21 PM PST by madison10
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