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To: gondramB
“Pimped out” means something very different to people born in my generation than Senator Clinton’s.

That is true, but I don't think there's much room to argue that Schuster's comment was some generation-gap miscommunication. The discussion was on Chelsea making phone calls to line up superdelegates, and the full quote was: "Doesn’t it seem like Chelsea’s sort of being pimped out in some weird sort of way?”

In that context, I don't think there's much way to argue which sense of "pimped out" was intended. There is no way you'll convince me, or many folks, that it was meant to imply that her wardrobe is gaudy.

127 posted on 02/08/2008 2:08:35 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: ReignOfError

To me it doesn’t matter what the intentions were. The TOONS are the last to speak about what is improper! F*#K’n Jew B@#tard is OK? - and that’s for starters. The Secret Service were her bellboys, cops are pigs.


140 posted on 02/08/2008 2:19:50 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: ReignOfError
Except that the term "to pimp" has evolved over the years, whereas "ho" has not (other than it being shortened from "whore.")

"Pimp" is now used almost exclusively as a generic to mean "to put someone/something out in front of oneself to do their dirty work" (because so many people do so these days.)

You don't see "pimps" anymore. People don't talk about "pimps" anymore. People DO still talk about "hos." People Do still see "hos."

Hillary had a fundraiser featuring Timbaland, who talks and sings about TONS OF MOMS' DAUGHTERS being HOS. Hillary LOVES Timbaland. Hillary claps to his lyrics.

Hillary is not "OUTRAGED" about Timbaland calling OTHER MOMS' DAUGHTERS "HOS." In fact she has him to her "parties" and takes and banks the monies made.

I don't watch MSNBC so I don't know about this clown Shuster. I DO though, watch Hillary, and know that she is seizing upon this for her OWN political gain. And boy is she stretching the old "pimp" to match the new "pimp" ALL FOR HER OWN "OUTRAGE" AND GAIN.

143 posted on 02/08/2008 2:32:49 PM PST by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: ReignOfError; weegee

Weegee:”It is also common industry slang for those on the Tonight show/Late Show/etc. to know and proclaim that they are “pimping” their latest movie/book/album.”

ReignOfError: “”Doesn’t it seem like Chelsea’s sort of being pimped out in some weird sort of way?”

In that context, I don’t think there’s much way to argue which sense of “pimped out” was intended. There is no way you’ll convince me, or many folks, that it was meant to imply that her wardrobe is gaudy.”


Good points from both of you. Putting those together, you get pretty much my position. That Hillary really should have known the word has taken on a dramatically different tone than 10 years ago - the word is used so much in a positive sense that freaking out over its very use makes the observer look out of touch or dishonest.

But ReignOfError has correctly identified the tone. Under cover of the word’s evolution he just called the candidate’s daughter a prostitute and said the candidate was taking advantage of her daughter...

Now I don’t agree with that assessment - Chelsea is old enough, educated enough and has enough employment and media experience to make her own decision about how she is involved in the campaign.

Thanks to both of you.


148 posted on 02/08/2008 2:46:11 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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