That sucks.
Posted on 02/08/2008 12:24:19 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
Goodbye, Windows XP.
Microsoft, which released its latest operating system, Vista, last year, plans to stop selling Windows XP in stores and through its PC partners on June 30.
(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...
Also, vi is not a real editor. :-)
We have awinner
My Office and other XP software would not run on Vista (and it has a carppy interface) so I upgraded to XP Pro.
Pretty happy now.
I was commenting on the success of Vista. It’s hard to tell based on revenues.
MS revenue includes a huge number of things, include it’sBusiness Division, Servers and Tools Divinsions, Entertainment (including x-box) Divisions, Investments. The billions of profit also includes these areas.
They have a tight lock on OEMs and separating out OS sales track with PC sales, and have to be considered in light of things that drive this market. You also cannot tell what portion of OEM OS sales are actually used - or desired - by the buyer.
It’s entirely possible for MS to have record revenues, huge revenues, and Vista still be a poor product or a major competitive mistake.
I’m not saying it is necessarily; just that it is not necessarily reflected in the profits. It likely wouldn’t be for some time. If ever, as MS invests in more and more non-OS areas.
IMHO, it is entirely possible for MS to make even more profit at some date years in future and no longer have a dominant OS share.
thanks for your reply.
Sorry, posted before proofing. Should have been:
Separating out OS sales is difficult. MS has a tight lock on OEMs and OS sales track with PC sales, and have to be considered in light of things that drive this market.
Well, actually, in Emacs the default bindings for many modes usually have both CTL-DEL and ALT-DEL bound to the function backward-kill-word, but you can always change those key bindings to any key combination convenient -- and you can always redefine the backward-kill-word function on the fly also. ;-)
Vista is the absolutely worst thing Microsoft ever did. I hate it, my programs hate it, my anti-virus hates it, my flash sticks hate it. It is just terrible, why are they forcing it on us. They are going to suffer the same fate as the old US auto industry who tried to force us to buy a new car every three years, and it can’t happen soon enough to suit me!
Yeah, it's called a Conservative running mate. We'll just call such a running mate "Service Pack 1."
My wife and I have tried Firefox several times, but there are certain instances where it just does not work properly, so we went back to IE, which we have no problems with.
You don’t have to install it.
If Apple would license their OS to computer manufactuers and get the prices down, they would slaughter M-soft's OS market share.
I had a new Vista laptop, but it was a pig, so I sold it within a couple of months. I just ordered a new 24" monitor and an upgraded video card for my 7 year old XP home, Pentium 4 machine. I'm going to run dual monitors on it, and keep running it a few more years. I never have any problems with XP.
“Why are they forcing Vista on us”
Why is Ford selling 2008 models? Profit. If you don’t want it, don’t buy it. There is no reason to change over unless you need to run some software than only works on Vista.
Your other choices are Apple and a few hundred versions of Linux.
Vista is all glit’s, and that glit’s sucks up cpu cycles when they could be used for something productive. MS has a habit of writing bloated code, and slowing down even very powerful machines.
Why dosen’t MS write a fast cappable OPSYS and sell the Glit’s seperatly for those who want it.
If the software I used would run on Linux I’d swap over permanently. Unfortunatly several pieces of software I own have no direct aternative written for Linux, like Motion Builder.
LOL!
Thou hadst slew the thread afore it drawdest first breath.
Last one like that after the FE block engines was the inline 305 6 cylinder. A friend had one in a pickup and got 250,000 miles out of it without opening it up, back when 100,000 was considered a very mature engine...
*guffaw*
That says it all.
I was reading recently about PC makers and market share.
The interesting thing was Mac made as much as the major PC makers (HP and Dell) with considerably less, a whole lot less, market share.
If, for example, you buy something online from Dell, you play hell getting off their site without a dozen opportunities to add-on and upgrade. They only make a decent profit on the top 10 percent or so of sales.
Mac says to heck with the low end, has less volume, manufacturing, warehousing, distribution and service worries - and makes the same bucks.
So.. this is the long way to say in reply to your point, that perhaps Apple does not see the same pressure to dominate in market share. Or at least, perhaps again, they think differently.
;)
thanks for your reply.
You obviously know much more about the inside of the industry than me. My perception, from a user standpoint, is that both Vista and Office 2007 were driven by the marketing guys who said "make it look and act like OSX." The Windows core isn't OSX, and while I think it could be a very useable OS, what they're doing is putting a sports car body on a pickup. The sports car body destroys the utility, while still not looking like a sports car. I'd guess that everything went through committees of managers and came back to the programmers as edicts, leaving the programmers very little leeway in designing function. It then seems like they tried to build in the legacy features on an OS that was fundamentally incompatible with most existing hardware anyway. It seems like a system that tries to go in all directions at once, and consistently kneecaps itself.
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