Shark's virgin birth: Lone female in aquarium gives birth to pup without contact with male

Daily Mail ^ | 7th February 2008 | DAVID DERBYSHIRE

[Mila]

Looks like this shark has something in common with this komodo dragon.

http://goldsea.com/802/08komodo.html

[dangus]

>> I’m always amazed how scientists think they know everything, until they suddenly don’t. <<

Read Jurassic Park. This was predicted. By scientists (whom Chrichton used as references).

[John Leland 1789]

Faith systems:

Islam
Judaism
Christianity
Hinduism
Buddhism
Darwinian Evolution (”We think, maybe this happened”; “We conjecture”; “We believe that”; “It’s possible that”; “there is a high probability”; etc.)

[null and void]

Excellent tagline material!

[CarrotAndStick]

I doubt there were sea-based dinosaurs. Especially ones that could live in the middle of deep oceans.

[CarrotAndStick]

I doubt there were sea-based dinosaurs. Especially ones that could live in the middle of deep oceans.

[CarrotAndStick]

However, of that list, one of them has more evidence for its truth, than the rest.

[John Leland 1789]

“However, of that list, one of them has more evidence for its truth, than the rest.”

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Correct, and it’s not the last one listed.

[CarrotAndStick]

I’d just say that the weight of evidence for the last one’s reality is by far more than that for the rest. I’d also say that each of the rest has about the same sort of “evidence” to prove their “reality” and this distinguishes the rest, from the last.

[John Leland 1789]

I know one thing, my friend. You are up too early on a Saturday morning.

I have only seen faith-based evidence of the last. There is too much SCIENTIFIC evidence against it.

[Leftism is Mentally Deranged]

I can hear the man-hating feminazis cheering. They would like this sort of thing expanded into humans, so they can finally be rid of men.

[CarrotAndStick]

It’s 5:30 pm in India right now.

:^)

[John Leland 1789]

OH! Youz & Usz be on the same continent!

[CarrotAndStick]

Heh heh!

[Egon]

Read Jurassic Park. This was predicted. By scientists (whom Chrichton used as references).

Ah, yes. The book based on the movie. (actually I think it was his second book that was written in such a way as to match the movie from the first book.)

Look, I know that parthenogenesis has been a known principle for many years-- although I wasn't aware that it was found in the shark world as well.

My glee isn't in the fact that science was wrong. Science is a process of discovery, not a collection of facts. My perverse pleasure is in the fact that, once again, people seemed to be stunned by how much they thought they knew, or profess to, but don't.

As Larry Lucido points out, this kind of arrogance isn't limited to scientists, but various religions (and the people who "people" them as well). I would disagree only on the percentage of arrogant people in each group-- I would say it's much higher, both in science and in religion.

As demecleze states: there are dogmatists and free thinkers-- and I would say in any group of people.

What irks me is that dogmatists are the squeaky wheels that get the grease. It's the dogmatists that:

• force us to spend millions of dollars on social programs that have the opposite effects they're "designed" for
• spend years promoting styles of parent "friending" that lead to generations of "feel good" "do nothing" youth
• promote germ-killing cleaners to the extent that people's immune systems are now dependent on more and stronger drugs
• preach "environmental" policies that cause fire hazards in forests due to overgrowth
• promote "cleaner" cars that cause excess pollution generating components for electric cars, change the balance of food production through over-production of the fraudulent ethanol product
• propose to spend billions of dollars preparing for GlobalWarming™-- something we didn't cause, and can't cure

All of these are the "science/religion" of today-- preached like fact-- that will be debunked tomorrow.

No one is ever censured for it. No one is ever called to account for the problems caused as a result. The same "scientists" that were wringing their hands about global cooling a few years ago, are the (fortunately dwindling) ones preaching global warming today. At least they're hedging their bets now and referring to it as ClimateChange™. Heck, there was even a movie (Day After Tomorrow) about how global warming causes global cooling!

Are eggs good for me today, or bad? I can't remember.

[dangus]

>> The book based on the movie. <<

Umm, I read it long before the movie came out. But it did read like a movie script. Some of its early content was moved over to the 2nd movie, though.

>> My perverse pleasure is in the fact that, once again, people seemed to be stunned by how much they thought they knew, or profess to, but don’t.<<

Yeah, I’m just not sure this is a good example. It’s hardly as if scientists were saying, “Parthenogenesis can’t occur in sharks.” It’s more just neat to discover something new, no?

Incidentally, go read Jurassic Park as a commentary on the failure of central planning. The movie was about biology; the book was much more about chaos theory and economics.

[VRWCtaz]

LOL - literally

[tioga]

-there must have been something in the water.

[Twinkie]

No. They followed a STARFISH!

[Egon]

Umm, I read it long before the movie came out. But it did read like a movie script. Some of its early content was moved over to the 2nd movie, though.

I read the first book. It was a good read and, as usual, better than the accompanying movie.

I didn't read the second book. What I understand, though, is the second book was written after the first movie came out, and followed from the ending of the movie, rather than the ending of the book. He sold out to the franchise, in other words.

You're right, this story is certainly not the best example of scientific arrogance. But, based on the tone of the article, certainly gave me a grin at their apparent angst.