Posted on 02/08/2008 3:57:52 AM PST by Man50D
Only months after a new state law effectively banned "mom" and "dad" from California schools, a total of 600,000 students could follow because of what has been described as the "repudiation" of 2,000 years of Christian morality, according to leaders of a new campaign assembling education alternatives.
The campaign is called California Exodus, and is being headed by Ron Gleason, pastor of Grace Presbyterian Church in Yorba Linda, who said while the country excels in social, economic, scientific and political accomplishments, it "gets low grades on the education of its children."
The issue is the state legislature's adoption of Senate Bill 777, which requires only positive portrayals of homosexual, bisexual, transgender and other alternative lifestyle choices.
"First, the law allowed public schools to voluntarily promote homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality. Then, the law required public schools to accept homosexual, bisexual, and transsexual teachers as role models for impressionable children. Now, the law has been changed to effectively require the positive portrayal of homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality to six million children in California government-controlled schools," said Randy Thomasson, chief of the Campaign for Children and Families and one of those who originally called for an abandonment of public schools.
"To rescue their children, loving parents need to find an alternative to government schools, and every church needs to make it a priority to help parents be in charge of their children's education again," he said.
He has condemned public school districts as "no longer a safe emotional environment for children" under the new law, signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, that will introduce children as young as kindergarten to the homosexuality and other alternative lifestyle choices.
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The government schools are a priced-fixed monopoly that is giving a product away to the parents at no charge. Wow! In the private sector if any industry tried to do that the CEOs would be in jail. Only the government could get away with such collusion!
So...what can conservatives do about it?
They must counter by giving education away for free as well. Can this be done? Yes, it can! Conservatives ( Christian and non-Christian) should have done this long ago!
Solution:
Private foundations giving private vouchers to attend private schools.
It makes me SICK to think of how many Conservatives ( Christian and non-Christian) have given money to Harvard’s $35 BILLION dollar endowment! Ditto for all the BILLIONS given to other Liberal/Marxist/Atheistic colleges and universities around the nation.
These Conservative private foundations could give vouchers or fund directly ( an “endowed chair” ) an individual teacher. They could certify the facility and curriculum, and possibly offer testing.
We are a wealthy nation! If Conservatives wanted ( Christian and non-Christian) every child in this nation could have the BEST education every seen since the dawn of humankind! In fact, we could probably do it for every child in the world. We **are** that wealthy!
What is needed is leadership and will to do it!
We should also abandon the idea of brick and mortar schools! They are expensive and have far too much zoning and other regulatory problems. Instead we should think in terms of virtual schools, dame schools, micro and mini schools, homeschool cooperatives, and one room school houses.
Another reason to abandon the Prussian military model of brick and mortar schools is that it is cruel to treat children like prisoners.
This is yet another issue where “mainstream” Republicans have decided to capitulate. McCain opposes a federal marriage amendment. He stated last week that homosexuality was neither morally wrong nor deviant. Rush no doubt now has gay acquaintances, whom he doesn’t want to offend. So Christians are simply expected to capitulate on these issues. Not immediately, but through the usual slow processes in which one thing leads to another, and pretty soon the whole gay agenda is the law of the land, and anyone who doesn’t like it is ostracized, or potentially even criminalized.
Christ will take care of your son and good for him for standing up for his values. Sad our country going the way it is but it’s no surprise to me at all...predicted in the Bible and Jesus explained being Christian is not an easy path.
My only question is how far along are we and how long do we have left?
I too have (young and older) children, and that’s what scares me most.
Isaac Newton in the latter half of his life came up with 2060...whether he was correct or not will be known at that time...
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You mean? How far is the path to the catacombs?
The homosexuals **viscerally** hate Christians and the Marxists and their Useful Idiots as well.
Or...just being Christian will be enough to lose a job. Just ask my son who used to work for a bank in a blue state city. Once it became known that he was a Christian, the office staff became hostile, uncooperative, and sabotaged his work.
Let us suppose one isn’t religious but objects to the current school curricula and cannot home school. I assume this is a very large number of individuals.
What are the options for these people without shelling out 5 figure checks to private schools?
How difficult would it be for an individual with a Masters in education to open a small school? I suspect the red tape would make it nearly impossible.
Are parents allowed to form group home schools?
“Rush no doubt now has gay acquaintances, whom he doesn’t want to offend.”
After all the good he has done, too. To be coopted by evil in this way...
“So Christians are simply expected to capitulate on these issues.”
They can expect in one hand and crap in the other, and see which one fills up first.
Are parents allowed to form group home schools?
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In my state, yes.
However,,,,my particular church barred homeschooling groups from using the facilities because of “insurance” and zoning reasons.
I figure a group of parents with a total of say 10 kids could hire instructors on an hourly basis and cut the cost of schooling to about the same level as Catholic schools.
6 hours of daily instruction for 5 days a week = 30 hours
180 school days = 36 weeks
36 weeks at 30 hours per week = 1080 hours
1080 hours at $30 per hour = $32,400 cost for independent contractor instructors or about $35,000 if you hire the instructor as a part-time employee and pay Social Security.
That comes to about $3,500 per kid plus the cost of books and other school materials.
To me, this sure looks like a good option. It allows multiple part-time instructors with different skills. It pays reasonably well.
I assume there are some insurance costs for liability for the location of the classroom and a few other issues, but since it’s not a profit making school, the standard home school rules should apply.
Should I start a company that assists groups of parents in setting up group home schools? It sounds like it might be a good way to make some money and provide needed services at the same time.
How I wish I had time for an extended reply, but alas I'm off to having some real fun with a homeschool group.
One of the things I miss most as a homeschooling parent (and we've done both private and homeschool) is the access to a stable outside source, like a building. Cabin fever happens to us. And the kids adore sports and would love a chance to play with other homeschoolers.
We attend a once-a-week group where particular parents are chosen as tutors (paid a small stipend) and the other parents sit in. It gives the students a chance to practice their presentation skills in front of a supportive group, and really encourages them to learn the material we're studying as the group engages in games and recitations together. Kids do have fun with one another. And it provides a huge blessing for the parents to learn so much from one another and to be blessed by seeing the enthusiasm of other children as well as their own. The other huge blessing is that the younger children (3 and under) have a wonderful time together in the nursery, and it allows the parent to have special time with their other children. My little one can't wait to go to the group and have a playdate with the other kids in the nursery.
So I was thinking first of all, a nice shared facility might not be a bad idea. It wouldn't have to have ideological strings attached, necessarily, but it could. That way parents might have shared access to things like scientific and computer equipment, sporting equipment, and just general nice things like white boards and tables. And then perhaps music and theater facilities. I know it sounds like I'm talking about a real school but I'm thinking of the parents' full participation at the facility. Also, in our group, the older children are responsible for helping to keep the facility clean (which is a church at present). So we take care of our own trash and crumbs after lunch. Obviously I could go on and on but I must dash!
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Superintendents go to workshops to learn how to deal with parents and the media. "You're the only parent who has complained." "We need to tolerate other people's differences." Ever heard those ones? Evade, obscure... and then silence opponents with Robert's rules of order.
One of the major problems to overcome is that government is a price-fixed monopoly that giving eduation away and charging parents nothing!
In Maryland, homeschooling was allowed but teaching the children of other families was forbidden by law. So,,,,Unless the law has changed, having a homeschool mom ( or stay-at-home teacher) run a one room school house in her home would be out of the question.
So...Then the question becomes one of finding space. Many churches ( such as mine) don’t want the insurance, zoning, and other health and fire related issues that are involved with schools.
But,,,yes, your idea could very well work.
I think the brick and mortar model should be abandoned for almost all children ( except in exceptional cases). We should think in terms of virtual schools, dame schools, micro and mini schools, one room school houses, and homeschool cooperatives.
By the way,,,we should work to break the government school monopoly on team sports.
“And, I won’t be surprised that if even more kids leave the faith within 2 years of graduating from high school. ( More than 85% now.)”
Why do you keep spreading this lie when you know it’s not true? What is true is that some percentage stop attending church for some period of time, but most return. And most of them never stop believing, they just don’t go to church regularly. I hardly went when I was in college.
Oh, here a few spare exclamation points in case you’ve run out. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Uh, okay.
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Sorry! I read that as a **faculty** fund! I see that you wrote **facility** fund. Big difference!
But,,,( a resounding) YES! To a **facility** fund! Private foundations could private “vouchers” to pay for building space.
But,,,What about a private foundation providing funds to “homeschool coordinator”?
An endowed “homeschool coordinator” could manage finding the space, seeing that the supplies were well cared for, scheduling meetings and classes, seeing that bills were paid, organizing theater events and sports competitions, and helping to locate and pay for specialized tutors.
Dr. Ray Moore of the Exodus Mandate is a liar?
Dr. Ray Moore has lied to the Southern Baptist Convention? Really? Please note in the quote at the bottom the words, “Never to return”.
**If** these formerly Christian kids return, it is with all the consequences of STDs, abortions, broken hearts, “walks of shame”, one night stands, broken marriage, divorces, child support payments, welfare checks, addictions, delinquencies, crime..etc.
Wow! Some come back. Most do not.
Homeschoolers have the right idea! Better to have 90% remain active.
If you want to argue stats, they write to Dr. Ray Moore. Please note the words: “NEVER TO RETURN”.
” Whereas, the Nehemiah Institute has discovered through
its extensive surveys of student attitudes and beliefs
that acceptance of a secular humanist worldview by
Christian children attending government schools has
increased dramatically over the last fifteen years, and
Whereas, the Southern Baptist Council on Family Life
reported to the 2002 Annual Meeting of the Southern
Baptist Convention that 88 percent of the children
raised in evangelical homes leave church at the age of
18, never to return;”
http://www.exodusmandate.org/art_christian-education-resolution-sbc.htm
Any teachers you would have seen marching on Sacramento would have been union members wanting a raise. I’m in the minority where I teach in that I don’t belong to a union. But I can tell you teachers union and non-union have been screaming about this and no one was listening.
OTOH, the one hopeful sign I do see is the homeschooling movement. It has expanded far beyond what I ever imagined. And the best advertisement is homeschooled children. They stand out in a crowd. My daughters are 9 and 12, and best friends. They're well-mannered and relentlessly cheerful. My sister's kids of comparable ages, who attend gov't schools in a very wealthy Boston suburb, with the proverbial "great school system," are constantly at each others throats. Our example has influenced one couple in our circle of friends to take the leap. And another coulple with two young children is divided over it. It's easy to see how the movement can grow exponentially. Then again, there's the prospect of free babysitting. Depends what's important to you. You're children's salvation or your comfort.
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