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To: flaglady47
It is still women who primarily want to make a marriage work and try to stick it out

Actually, women initiate divorces more often than men - something like 70%, I recall reading. Otherwise, I agree with your post.

However, we should note that the problem with marriage is not just divorce, it's more and more women having babies without ever getting married. There is little or no social stigma anymore attached to having illegimate children in most sectors of society. The women want children more than they want a husband, and they don't need a husband to support the family.

15 posted on 02/08/2008 1:30:42 AM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

“However, we should note that the problem with marriage is not just divorce, it’s more and more women having babies without ever getting married. There is little or no social stigma anymore attached to having illegimate children in most sectors of society. The women want children more than they want a husband, and they don’t need a husband to support the family.”

Women have a biological time clock. And it continually ticks. Lots of men don’t want to get married anymore because it’s easier to live the single life, or have the milk without having to buy the cow. Another symptom on how the value of marriage has been denigrated. So, the women have children anyhow, and even if illegitimate, you had better be glad someone is having children or we wouldn’t be able continue our species. Women will have children one way or the other. They aren’t fools.

And if guys don’t want to get married, illegitimacy will continue to run rampant. And women should stop giving it away for free as 1) it’s really bad for their self esteem, and 2) if done on a large scale, marriage will come back in fashion. It needs to once again become a hallowed and honored institution. Not just another one of life’s little options.

By the way, your comment makes it sound like there are no men attached to screwing around with those single women and then not bothering to marry them. Not just the women getting knocked up. It’s not a miraculous event, you know. Takes two to tangle.


29 posted on 02/08/2008 1:53:16 AM PST by flaglady47
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Well stupid us has just nominated a Presidential candidate who has a divorce under his belt. This will just add to the acceptance of divorce. We are so stupid as a Republican Party!!!


37 posted on 02/08/2008 2:10:01 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
However, we should note that the problem with marriage is not just divorce, it's more and more women having babies without ever getting married. There is little or no social stigma anymore attached to having illegimate children in most sectors of society.

If you're advocating the return of social stigma to address this growing problem, well, that is rather backward thinking of you. While there are women who choose to have children w/o a husband or even a boyfriend in the picture, many single moms find themselves single after choosing NOT to get an abortion. Roe v. Wade and no-fault divorces, IMHO, have done more damage to the family than anything.
322 posted on 02/09/2008 7:42:09 AM PST by fleagle ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. -Winston Churchill)
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