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London's Mega-Mosque Stirs Controversy
VOA News ^ | January 28, 2008 | Mandy Clark

Posted on 02/07/2008 10:57:53 PM PST by americanophile

Britain already has more than 2,000 mosques. No other country in Western Europe has more. Now, London may become home to a mega-mosque and many people are raising a fuss about it. Two hundred thousand people have signed a petition to stop construction. VOA's Mandy Clark reports from London.

The battleground is a derelict piece of land with a makeshift mosque. It is where the ultra-conservative Islamic sect called Tablighi Jamaat plans to build a sprawling $200 million, modern metallic mosque. It would be the largest in the Western world, holding 12,000 people alongside schools and a library. In effect it would be an Islamic village.

But the plan has sparked controversy. Two hundred thousand people, including many moderate Muslims, have signed petitions against the project.

A local councilor, Alan Craig, is leading the fight. "If you look at the effect of Tablighi Jamaat with this radicalizing, fundamental approach they love, and this separatism that they preach, it's no wonder that various intelligence services, the French and U.S. and so on, have referred to them as a fertile breeding ground for terrorism,” he says.

Tablighi Jamaat officials turned down repeated requests for an interview with VOA News. But Inayat Bungawala, from the Muslim Council of Britain, told VOA the allegations against the group are baseless. "I certainly do not accept any association with terrorism and Tablighi Jamaat. Everything that I have heard is smear-mongering and of no actual evidential basis whatsoever."

The infamous shoe bomber, Richard Reid, was linked to Tablighi Jamaat, as were two of the bombers who struck London's transport system in July 2005.

Massoud Shadjareh, from the Islamic Human Rights Commission, says the group's link to high profile terrorists is tenuous at best. "This is outrageous. There is no linkage here, but we are creating a linkage that somebody went and prayed in one of these mosques. Well, so what?"

Still the mega-mosque has become a lighting rod for a wider debate in Britain over how best to integrate the country's growing Muslim population. Many say the mosque's construction will cement London's reputation as the Muslim capital of Europe.

That leaves many Britons uneasy, says sociologist Sara Silvestri from London's City University.

"People fear any activity or statement made in the name of religion in the society. It may compromise or might damage completely the fabric of society and the fabric of political institutions," she explains.

The proposed mosque would stand next to the Olympic Park and be the city's predominant religious building as London welcomes the world to the 2012 Games.

All of this has made the debate more emotional and nasty. A mock obituary on the YouTube Web site targeted Alan Craig and other opponents of the mosque. "The thing that was really offensive to me is that it wasn't just me in the video, but they put my wife and my young daughters in it,” said an upset Craig. “They were up there, filmed and photographed and they became part of the obituary and I just thought that was completely offensive, completely over the top and completely unaccepted."

The mega-mosque plans still need city approval. But already it has become a symbol of Islam's burgeoning growth in Britain and the country's struggle to deal with it.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: islam; london; megamosque
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To: americanophile; All

I lived in England for almost 8 years.

I spent a lot of time in West Yorkshire. Places like Leeds, Bradford and all surrounding areas are practically all Muslim. We would walk the towns and play ‘spot the white guy’. We were not welcome and often got dirty looks from the ‘locals’. We were treated like intruders by the shopkeepers, too. Not in all parts, but many.

And in London... well, I hear they have street signs in Punjabi.

I can only see America going the same way.

People from other countries move in, populate, demand we move over for them and the next thing ya know, they are electing officials that change laws for their benefit and pushing us out.

:(


21 posted on 02/08/2008 12:07:37 AM PST by KarenMarie
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To: KarenMarie
People from other countries move in, populate, demand we move over for them and the next thing ya know, they are electing officials that change laws for their benefit and pushing us out.

And to help along this process we have as our presumptive “conservative” Republican Presidential Candidate John “Amnesty” McCain.

22 posted on 02/08/2008 12:20:25 AM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: americanophile

Well - what can be said about that?


23 posted on 02/08/2008 12:23:16 AM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President!)
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To: KarenMarie

So West Yorkshire is a province, a district? Leeds & Bradford are Islamicized towns? How big?


24 posted on 02/08/2008 1:53:36 AM PST by flowerplough ( Allah, through his prophet and his followers, demands my submission and my obedience, or my death.)
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To: americanophile
No wonder there are record numbers of Brits moving out of the UK and Muslims moving in.
25 posted on 02/08/2008 1:58:50 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Huckabee: Some people need to switch to decaf...)
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To: americanophile

blow it up...they build it...blow it up...every time.

Or your Brit a** is lost.


26 posted on 02/08/2008 2:10:42 AM PST by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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To: gleeaikin

It was on Drudge yesterday also, although Drudge of course links to the London tabloids.


27 posted on 02/08/2008 2:16:45 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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To: flowerplough

Hmmm.. going from memory, the uk is broken down into regions

Yorkshire is a region with counties. Going from my often faulty memory, they are listed as such. I have included the main towns and cities I can remember off the top of my head.

North Yorkshire
Craven
Hambleton
Harrogate
Richmondshire
Ryedale
Scarborough
Selby
York

South Yorkshire
Barnsley
Doncaster
Rotherham
Sheffield

West Yorkshire
Bradford
Calderdale
Kirklees
Leeds
Wakefield

The downtown area of Bradford and Leeds are like nothing I have seen before, but once you drive out of the city, it is like driving to another country.

Sorry if I erred in my listings... if I left something out or misplaced a town in the wrong county.


28 posted on 02/08/2008 2:16:59 AM PST by KarenMarie
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29 posted on 02/08/2008 2:46:31 AM PST by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: Tainan

“blow it up...they build it...blow it up...every time.”

Whew! I feel a little less guilty now that I was having the same nasty thoughts. As far as this country is concerned, we surely better be aware of what is going on around us.

http://hirr.hartsem.edu/research/quick_question20.html


30 posted on 02/08/2008 2:47:30 AM PST by Mila
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To: americanophile

Sort of like the Haj, get them all in one place then destroy them all at one time.


31 posted on 02/08/2008 3:51:49 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: The Duke

Tyler...is that you?


33 posted on 02/08/2008 10:07:08 PM PST by americanophile
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To: fishhound; beaversmom; americanophile; All

Thanks for the links. So it was the Archbishop of Canterbury who said it. Saw BBC World News again tonight, and the word is he is catching every kind of [inferno] over this. A muslim woman said he obviously doesn’t understand what he is talking about. He is now acutely embarrassed and upset over the furor.


34 posted on 02/09/2008 12:06:45 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: americanophile

the only place bin laden and cronies need to commit violence is in islamic countries (iraq, pakistan)! demographics works wonders everywhere else!


35 posted on 02/09/2008 12:14:01 AM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: gleeaikin; F15Eagle

The Archbishop of Canterbury must be using a politically correct Bible that has all references to Judas Isacariot edited out of it.


36 posted on 02/09/2008 9:56:25 AM PST by fishhound
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To: F15Eagle

He is in my prayers. Brave and Noble.


37 posted on 02/09/2008 9:57:32 AM PST by fishhound
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