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McCain asks conservatives for support
Reuters ^ | Feb 8,2008 | John Whitesides

Posted on 02/07/2008 6:04:22 PM PST by AmericanMade1776

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To: joanie-f; tet68
...you screw over us and we will hold your feet to the fire!
Shades of 2000.
Kind of useless as a baseline since the flame resistant shoes and socks have already been handed out.
201 posted on 02/08/2008 5:57:24 AM PST by philman_36
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To: nicmarlo; joanie-f
...any wolves in sheeps clothing...
...any jackass in elephant's clothing...
202 posted on 02/08/2008 6:01:00 AM PST by philman_36
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To: joanie-f
And what a pickle the main stream media is going to be in, and what a tizzy establishment Republicans are going to be in. Any future remarks regarding the remaining candidates is going to have to include "third tier" candidates or there is going to be some shoe scraping going on.
I love the irony! They're going to be forced to give name recognition to them simply because they're still in the race!
ROTFLOL!
203 posted on 02/08/2008 6:30:41 AM PST by philman_36
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle wrote: Once you've finally managed to descend to the sub-sub-sub-sewer level of implying (however coyly) that anyone who won't vote for your candidate can't possibly really be a good American: you've voluntarily surrendered the high ground, the argument, and your dignity. In that order.

You got it wrong, McCain is not my candidate, but I will vote for him to keep Hillary and Obama from the Oval office, and I will do it because he is a better choice then having a Democrat in the Oval office. I will do it for our Troops also. I don't know what you mean about descending into the sub-sewer level...were you drinking booze when you wrote that?

204 posted on 02/08/2008 6:42:15 AM PST by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776
I don't know what you mean about descending into the sub-sewer level...were you drinking booze when you wrote that?

My apologies for leaping to the (obviously unwarranted) assumption that you possessed the courage of your own minimal convictions, when you typed (or had a big person type out for you) "We may be conservative, but we are American first," in response to another poster's stating they wouldn't vote for the same candidate as yourself. Evidently, granting that you might actually in any way mean what you've been gassily pontificating throughout this thread was the proverbial One Step Too Far.

No worries; it's all just meaningless noise, then. Babble on, and away, with my blessings.

205 posted on 02/08/2008 7:08:15 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: joanie-f
What does that say about the republican party of 2008? It says that, over the past two decades, we registered republicans have allowed our party to incrementally exclude true conservatives for consideration to hold the highest offices in the land. And how have we done that? We have ‘gone along to get along’.

Yes, Ma'am.

206 posted on 02/08/2008 7:15:43 AM PST by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: rodeo-mamma
Well stated. McCain sure was rammed down our throats. I am going 3rd party. If we vote for him, we will be similar to the Blacks in the Democratic party. I already heard talk that the reason Romney did not win was because would be too touch on illegal aliens - that is how it will be presented.

Hillary is right. McCain knows nothing about the economy, has no experience other than being a Washington insider and buddy of Ted Kennedy. Has shown himself to be of bad character, etc. Romney would have made her look bad as to experience, immigration issue, moral character of spouse, physical appearance, etc.

207 posted on 02/08/2008 7:26:34 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Adiemus
Hillary will beat him - he is the weakest of GOP candidates. If we vote for him it gives the GOP the assurance that they can ram anyone down our throats and we will take. You hit the nail on the head when you called him a scoundrel. Some might argue that he is even worse than Hillary because of his mental problems.

To me the fix was in for McCain and it demonstrates that we no longer have a two party system - only one party. Some of us, including Democrats, were surprised that Kerry got the nomination last time - the candidate most likely to lose. Now we return the favor and give them McCain?

After Hillary will there be another Bush and then Chelsea and then a Bush again?

208 posted on 02/08/2008 7:33:24 AM PST by Dante3
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To: joanie-f

Wow joanie-f. You brought a tear to my eye.

I tip my hat to you. You said it so well.


209 posted on 02/08/2008 7:36:35 AM PST by dforest (Nothing left to say.)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Time to Roll!

Roll on this McAmnesty.

L

210 posted on 02/08/2008 8:25:37 AM PST by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
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To: Nokia
>Come November you will ALL do the right thing and vote McCain...............And you know it.<

You have never been more wrong in your life!

__________________________________________________________________________

The War Secrets Sen. John McCain Hides

But there was one subject that was off-limits, a subject the Arizona senator almost never brings up and has never been open about -- his long-time opposition to releasing documents and information about American prisoners of war in Vietnam and the missing in action who have still not been accounted for. Since McCain himself, a downed Navy pilot, was a prisoner in Hanoi for 5 1/2 years, his staunch resistance to laying open the POW/MIA records has baffled colleagues and others who have followed his career. Critics say his anti-disclosure campaign, in close cooperation with the Pentagon and the intelligence community, has been successful. Literally thousands of documents that would otherwise have been declassified long ago have been legislated into secrecy.

Also see:

Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain

Sen. John McCain wants to give citizenship to illegal aliens as fast as he possibly can,

Now.................

I hope the following 14 reasons are read so many times that the readers get sick of reading them. I have included the URL’s for verification of the following facts.

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year.
http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that’s two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.

Homeland Security Report
http://www.house.gov/mccaul/pdf/Investigaions-Border-Report.pdf

12. The National Policy Institute, ‘estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.’
http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/publications.php?b=deportation

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.
http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14. ‘The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States’.
http://www.drdsk.com/articles.html#Illegals

The total cost is a whooping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR !


211 posted on 02/08/2008 9:05:04 AM PST by B4Ranch (("Life is a food chain; if you're not at the top, you're on the menu." ))
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To: joanie-f

Once again, my Dear, you have put into words all of my thoughts about McCain, the Republican Party and the future of America.

As I watch history being written and rewritten, I have often wished that you had become a national columnist but then reality hits and I realize that we don’t have any truly conservative media remaining that could proudly publish your words.

I won’t be voting for McCain (POW issues) but I don’t think I can bring myself to vote for Hillary either so I will probably write your name in and pray a bit longer each night for our republic.


212 posted on 02/08/2008 9:29:58 AM PST by B4Ranch (("Life is a food chain; if you're not at the top, you're on the menu." ))
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To: larlaw

It says to me that he’s contemptuous of those who opposed his amnesty bill and he’s lying through his teeth. Neither of which is anything new for McCain.


213 posted on 02/08/2008 10:39:54 AM PST by TigersEye (I'm a maverick. I'm sticking with conservatism.)
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To: joanie-f
The conviction and clarity with which you are able to express my thoughts is truly uncanny!

It's beginning to look as though republicans will have their very own basket case for a candidate. JMO, but John McCain is the nearest thing to a loose cannon the pubbies have ever been able to get this close to "the button". Even Barry Goldwater, for all his bluster, was not the unknown quantity that John McCain is.

In any case, "our" people let us down -- badly in many cases. With dims in office, at least we have a known enemy.

214 posted on 02/08/2008 12:53:46 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: B4Ranch; joanie-f
Once again, my Dear, you have put into words all of my thoughts about McCain, the Republican Party and the future of America.

As I watch history being written and rewritten, I have often wished that you had become a national columnist but then reality hits and I realize that we don’t have any truly conservative media remaining that could proudly publish your words.

I won’t be voting for McCain (POW issues) but I don’t think I can bring myself to vote for Hillary either...

I find it amazing that there are still kindred spirits who have the means to express so well about so many things that I think and feel. Both of you consistently can do this; and I know, B4, you will take it as no slight that I agree with you on joanie's talent. As I read her commentary, your thoughts were my own (but so much better stated). I have often wished she could be as well received as Peggy Noonan's writings, because, our joanie deserves such a great audience. A true talent, indeed.

I will be writing in my choice of candidate as well. I decided some time ago that never, ever again, will I cast a vote simply to cast one against a democrat. For the rest of my voting life, I will only vote for a conservative.

McCain is as far removed from espousing any kind of genuine conservative values or core as a blind man is able to see. Those who think they help our nation by blindly voting for any candidate with an "R" after their name ought to rethink the consequences of their actions. As joanie so eloquently pointed out, her prophetic words of warning will come about if conservatives continue to elect conservatives in name only, to the detriment of this country and to all who call themselves patriots of America.

215 posted on 02/08/2008 1:29:39 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: philman_36; joanie-f
..any jackass in elephant's clothing...

much better stated and more accurate!

(perhaps our talented writer is willing to be critiqued concerning this phrase fofl!)

216 posted on 02/08/2008 1:34:33 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Halgr
May God Protect us from the coming darkness.

Amen, Halgr....Amen.

217 posted on 02/08/2008 1:47:17 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Dante3
Dante3, I'm with you. Our mettle (including our soldiers') is tested by fire and battle (particularly, our soldiers). I don't worry about our soldiers - best equipped, best trained, and best attitude in the world, bar none. They won't be abandoned in the midst of battle no matter who is President - it just won't happen. However, I do worry about appeasers and those who see conciliation for our 'country's sake'.

Perhaps, it's time that we here at home, all of us, have our 'mettle' tested with respect to principles. I won't vote for a Democrat in Republican clothing (or perfunctory conservative words when his heart does not agree).

I'm just gonna sit the next one out. Not gonna vote for McCain, not gonna vote for Obama (probably the Dem nominee), and I'm gonna let the US at large see the folly of what they have wrought. Maybe we'll all learn something for 2012.

218 posted on 02/08/2008 1:58:26 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: nicmarlo; joanie-f
joanie-f knows us better than we know ourselves!

Kinda skeery isn't it? heh

219 posted on 02/08/2008 4:57:03 PM PST by TigersEye (I'm a maverick. I'm sticking with conservatism.)
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To: TigersEye; joanie-f
Very!

: )

220 posted on 02/08/2008 4:58:46 PM PST by nicmarlo
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