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To: William Tell 2

Two questions:

1. How much worse than Carter can Hillary or Obama do?
2. How much better than Reagan can we expect after the country is once again sick of democrat control of the Whitehouse?

I’m certainly willing to risk it. A RINO president gets the conservative movement nowhere and risks the death of the only viable political party capable of executing a conservative agenda.


37 posted on 02/06/2008 10:15:03 AM PST by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Rockitz

Along those lines, I’ve seen it written here before. I’ll reiterate:

If McCain becomes president he will be able to help push through socialist legislation like pro-Amnesty without much push back from Repubs or Dems. If we get a Dem president, the same socialist legislation will have a much harder time getting through Congress as the Repubs will be able to actively rally against the president (actually solidifying the party). Basically, we’ll actually end up with worse legislation with a McCain presidency since we’ll lose any check and balance against socialist policies. Sometimes, like with Carter, you have to lose a little to get back what you really want. The best way there looks like a vote for a pro-war Dem president if McCain gets the nomination. - This is how we got to Reagan...


126 posted on 02/06/2008 11:57:27 AM PST by YummiBox (tagline intentionally left blank.)
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To: Rockitz

Your Question
“1. How much worse than Carter can Hillary or Obama do?”

I’ll tell you how much worse - That party is built on HATE. Theyll come after the Conservatives with a vengeance. They HATE the FACT of our guns. They HATE the FACT of our independence. They HATE the FACT of our faith. The HATE the FACT of Talk Radio. The HATE the FACT of Free Republic. They HATE the FACT of ANYTHING we stand for and believe in.

You think we’ll ANY First Amendment case in a Supreme Court stacked with socialist Liberals, when they pass a law to shut down talk radio and sites like Free Republic? Because THAT’s who a Democommie will nominate, and with a compliant Congress of neutered Republicans and vengeful Dems, we’ll have NO say in the matter.

And they’ll have the coercive power of THE LAW behind them to do whatever they want. They’ll MAKE the damned laws any way they want. Have you all forgotten Waco, Ruby Ridge, Elian Gonzalez etc.,? THAT’S what the Dems do - they use FORCE to accomplish what the LAW allows them to do.

NOT vote Republican because of McCain??? Then go ahead and vote for Hitlery or the radical closeted “I used to be a Muslim But Now I’m A Christian” who won’t put his hand over his heart when the National Anthem is played. It’s the same thing.

Maybe the GOP deserves to lose; BUT THE COUNTRY DOESN’T. Not everyone knows what is going on in the country; not everyone understands the depth of the socialist insurgency that the Lefties are waging through the Democrat party. People are busy running their lives, trying to deal with everyday issues of paying the bills, caring for family, living and dying, etc., and for the most part are unconscious of all this.

WE understand it, because we’re out here paying attention and ringing bells. How long did it take each of us to wake up to this? Every single Freeper out here can name at least 20 people that they personally know that has NO clue. So it’s up to US to alert people, and wake them up.

I was a Fred Thompson supporter - but he QUIT.

Duncan Hunter was next in line for me, but he got no support. Where were all the Conservatives to support him?

I don’t like McCain either; he’s a gun-grabber, a nasty, petty little man who spent the last eight years plotting and scheming this, but the issue is being decided FOR us, no matter what we say. Thank whoever is running the GOP for that. Find THEM, and purge THEM, and take our party back. Read Saul Alinsky’s book Rules for Radicals (if you can stomach reading commie trash) - but he put it best - “If you want to change things YOU BE THE DELEGATES. YOU nominate the front runner.”

GET INTO THE GOP SYSTEM AND TAKE IT BACK, throw the G-damned RINOs out and build it back up.

A Republican win at the White House may have the benefit of spilling over to the Congress. We should concentrate our efforts there, so that if McCain tries to push ANY leftie agenda, our people there can stop it. We’re being PURPOSELY distracted by the Presidential run and not paying enough attention to the Congressional and Senate elections.

First: This isn’t over by a long-shot.
Second: Since when do we, as Conservatives, as AMERICAN PATRIOTS whine and cry and stay home? THAT does NOT do the COUNTRY any good. Roll over and let the Democommies walk away with this? I wasn’t raised that way. FIGHT for what you believe in and make it happen.

Everyone stop whining. Stand the F*** up and LEAD. We NEED to win this damned election - and EVERY Damned election. If it’s McCain, then so be it. We’ll hold Congress to gridlock, and then hold his damned feet to the fire and block everything he tries if it’s not to OUR liking.

ANYTHING is better than Hillary. And Obama is as far to the Left as she is, if not further.
Someone a few posts back mentioned “Revolution II”. You want it, you’ll get it with the Dems in there. You want a Cold War, we’ll have that with McCain.

Argue all any of you want. It’s reality. I will NEVER sit out an election. Too many people DIED for that RIGHT, as they died for ALL American rights.

The COUNTRY doesn’t deserve the Clinton Years over again. We can’t afford it.

Unless you all want the Union of Soviet Socialist States of America. Because THAT’s what the Dems want. THAT’s what the RINOs want too.

YOU’RE willing to “risk it?” This is NOT a game. This is our frigging COUNTRY on the line, and everything our families fought and bled and DIED for. I’m NOT willing to risk it.

As I’ve said - I dont like the guy AT ALL, but if he beats the commie party and gets in, we hold his ass accountable for EVERYTHING, and block him where we can.

Time for OUR radicals to take the stage.

Whatever. I’m sick to my stomach of the whole damned affair, but I’ll be DAMNED if I’ll let the democommie bastards walk away with this by staying home.

This is MY country. I’ll not give it up so easily.


151 posted on 02/06/2008 1:14:40 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment is Non-Negotiable and NOT subject to Polling Data)
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