Posted on 02/05/2008 10:26:48 PM PST by papasmurf
Just bought a T-shirt and bumper sticker saying, “Don’t blame me - I voted for Fred”
Oh well. Looks like I’ll vote straight Republican this November...except for President.
Drat you. You made me cry again.
Who’s selling online, do you know?
MCCAIN IS THE FRONT RUNNER, NOT THE WINNER!!!!!!
HE HAS LESS THAN HALF THE DELEGATES NEEDED TO WIN!
Huckabee won his home state by a (pardon my southern term) WHOPPING margin, while Romney barely won his home state by a 10 point margin.
Maybe some people just didnt drink the koolaid, huh?
Who cares who wins New York, or Illinois, or the North Eastern liberal states that are DEEP BLUE, and going to vote democrap in the fall for sure anyway (barring some huge unforeseen event).
A republican president needs to win in the south to win in the fall, and people in the southern states arent drinking the koolaid that Rush and Sean are trying to serve, trying to pretend Romneys a great conservative when he has been supporting abortion, supporting taxpayers funding it, campaigning on it while hes in a blue state, then tries to to tell us hes just started thinking about it, and changed his mind now, but his kids are great, and his hair is great, so we should vote for him.
I hope that Mitts conversionS are real, and if hes the nominee, Id take a chance on him instead of the Dems, but some of us are realistic enough to be a LITTLE skeptical that after years of supporting abortion, taxpayer funded abortion, the Brady Bill and other gun control, homosexual issues, gay judges, that hes all of sudden conservative on ALL those issues.
Huckabee - reliably pro-life, not recently pro-life.
Huckabee - reliably pro 2nd amendment, not recently 2nd amendment.
He understands that it is for self defense, not just hunting and sports.
Every vote for Mike Huckabee from now on will be one more vote to show the establishment and the media that the election cant be bought and we dont have to settle for their opinion of thats the best we can get.
I love Rush and Sean, but they dont get to decide who I vote for.
If DUNCAN HUNTER believes Huckabee can be trusted on border/immigration and WOT issues, I would trust Duncan Hunters informed, educated judgment after he spent a year getting to know the candidates, more than I would trust the opinion of any of the haters on here.
Huckabee got over 60% of the vote in his home state, 2nd place was only 20% but Romney only won his home state by 51% to McCain’s 41%, and McCain got LESS than 50% in his home state.
So if you have been paying any attention to the posters on here claiming to be Arkansas republicans who claim he couldn’t even win his own state, take a deep breath, and look at the numbers. T H R E E times as many votes, and the other guys barely won their states. He won, BIG, compared to the other people they are telling us would be the winners.
If it had been a 2 - man race (McCain and Huckabee), if Rush and Sean had supported the REAL conservative instead of the Conservative if Convenient Huckabee would have WON Missouris 58 winner take all delegates.
McCain won over Huckabee by 1% because some people either believed Romneys new position Im conservative pro-life and support gun rights, or were skeptical about his recent conversions, but didnt think Huckabee could win, because thats what the media kept telling them.
So my question is, when are Rush and Sean going to say, Oh, were sorry folks for telling you that Romneys a conservative, and Huckabee couldnt win - sorry if we cost Huckabee that one percent in Missouri and gave those 58 winner take all delegates to McCain. Sorry about that, sorry its our fault if McCains going to be the nominee.
Think theyll take responsibility and apologize?
Im not holding my breath.
But it still isn’t too late - if Romney drops out now, Huckabee would beat McCain in every state that is left.
Pointing out that Romney has spent ten times as much money to accumulate a few more delegates in states that don’t matter anyway, is not being envious, or using class warfare, or an attack on anybody.
In accounting and business, it’s called ‘return on investment’, in real life, it’s called common sense, in elections, it’s called trying to save our country.
A VOTE FOR HUCKABEE IS A VOTE AGAINST MCCAIN!!
HUCKABEE / HUNTER 08
Don’t know where you got your numbers from, but McManiac has 687 to Romney’s 244 to Huckabee’s 187.
A few more? LOL
Huck’s positioning himself, that’s all.
Besides, it doesn’t matter. None of the “leftovers” can be the DUmmies.
We’re actually in the unthinkable situation where we MUST stop the GOP nominee from winning to save the party. I feel like a character at the end of a ‘SAW’ movie with what’s unfolded here. The handwriting was on the wall the moment Fred finished 3rd in SC. We didn’t want to accept it and some transferred their hope to Mitt, but that was an empty vessel in which to place their desperate hope. Mitt is no better than the rest of the jokers who are running. But now, we’re in a position where the nominee is going to be so bad that the only choice is to actively work against him...it’s so sad, considering the pathetic lines of attack that they used against Fred.
He ‘just didn’t have the fire in the belly’, he ‘looked too old’, he didn’t wear a blue tie instead of a red tie. His suit was crooked. Those were the criticisms and this is what we ended up with.
I blame a lot of people, both in the conservative media and here at FR. A lot of people who tried and succeeded in tearing down Fred to benefit an inferior candidate like Romney, McCain, Huckabee. A number of the Hunter supporters deserve blame too. I blame Fred for a few mistakes too, but the lion’s share of the blame goes to guys like Hewitt, a few Freepers and even Rush and Sean. They all played this very badly and now the country will pay the price.
..and he cleared his throat too much and said “ah” and “um”.
Yes, McCain is soooo much better. **bleeech**
I miss Fred!!! :o(
Yeah, in the field comprised of the gutless flip flopper, the unabashed liberal, the socialist pastor who raised taxes ‘for the children’ and the crazy old man, it’s a good thing we got rid of the guy who said ‘uh’ too much.
ERJCaptain wrote: “Fred Thompson betrayed conservatives... by not endorsing Mitt Romney... Many of you should be ashamed.”
Get over yourself! So you think Fred should have endorsed the guy whose minions put up the “Phoney Fred” website to diss Fred? You think Fred should have endorsed the guy whose supporters lied about Fred’s record on abortion to try to portray him as pro-choice? You think Fred should have endorsed the candidate whose supporters, more than those of any other candidate, tried to kneecap Fred?
You’ve got a lot of dang gaul. Fred didn’t owe Mitt Romney a blessed thing, especially his endorsement. And Fred didn’t betray anyone. Stop blaming Fred for Mitt Romney’s shortcomings!
Sheesh...
I understand why people feel the need to play defensive politics and support someone they, otherwise, wouldn’t. I’ve done it before. I’m just not up for it anymore.
The only way out of the mess we are in would have been to get a solid Conservative with the ability to garner just enough DUmmy support to win this year. That didn’t happen for us. It’s not going to happen.
Now, with the position we are in, our best option is to let the DUmmies have it and work to make sure it’s only a one term administration, that we have made our case to the public, and we are in position to capitalize in 2012. If we let a RINO in, everything he does will be on us, and we’ll take the hit for it, and it’ll be 20 years or more before we see the inside of the WH, without taking a tour.
That would be my strategy if I were the powers that be. If I had any real dirt on either the beast or the Kenyan guy, I’d hold it until it was more useful after they were elected.
This way we could lay the ground work for their demise. The beast’s trial in Cali., Jefferson’s trial, campaign irregularities, corruption, ties to shady business deals, etc. Oh yeah, it could be a fun and sweet 4 years.
But, like I said, we stand a snowball’s chance in hell of winning this year anyway.
I know.
I will get to bitter, but right now I am still sad.
OOPS...I feel a progression to totally ticked off coming...
Fox website this afternoon - they said MH 190 at the time, but my point was just that between him and Mitt, I’ve heard a lot of estimates that Mitt had spent about 10 times as much money, and sure didn’t have 10 times as many delegates.
(not even twice as many, not even close)
So at Romneys 244 to Huckabees 187 = 57 more delegates, right?
It’s past my bedtime, and my brain is doing funny things, but I tried to figure out the percentage of the spread, and it looks to me like 23% inclusive, and 30% exclusive, which are the same figures generally used for the Fair Tax, which is one of the reasons I support Huckabee (accountant’s for Fair Tax!!)
That would be a really fascinating coincidence, if my mind isn’t playing tricks on me.
1% higher makes both numbers a little too high.
But my original point was that southern conservatives don’t want to buy what Mitt is trying to sell.
People said Huckabee couldn’t even get 10%, couldn’t possibly win Iowa, couldn’t possibly do it again, couldn’t win any states yesterday. He won five yesterday, and was ahead in Missouri for hours, until McCain finally caught up, then crept past him by one point.
So now when they say he couldn’t possibly win the nomination, I’m not buying that either.
It’s just a daydream of mine, but if Hunter would be the VP, would you believe his intentions are to do the right thing on the border?
Courage and integrity are fine. However the inability to pick your battles with the big picture and future in mind has brought us to John McCain.
BTW, I still have my Fred 08 sticker on the car, am deeply saddened at Romney’s departure today.
Now, we must defeat Hillary and Obama.
McCain will pick Huckabee as his VP. This plan seems most evident in the outcome of WV.
Your statment of non-support for our nominee speaks to not realizing that you are voting for Hillary or Obama by doing so. Hopefully you will reconsider who the real enemy is, and that we have hard work ahead in the years to come. Are you up for it?
The Constitution Party is not viable at this time.
i voted for Fred in the primary in NH which seems like forever ago at this stage.
i will now grudgingly vote for McCain over the Hill/Bama trainwreck that is going to ruin this great nation.
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