Posted on 02/05/2008 9:57:36 PM PST by Moral Hazard
Meanwhile, McCain adopted a tough tone on illegal immigration in a radio ad airing in Southern California. The ad appeared to be aimed at countering Romney's criticism of his conservative credentials and his stance backing a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants, an issue that has strong resonance with Republican voters in the state.
"I've listened and learned," McCain said in the ad. "As president, I'll hire new border guards, build a fence, ask governors to certify that their borders are secure. The two million people who have committed crimes will be deported immediately.
"No one will be rewarded for illegal behavior. They'll go to the back of the line, pay fines and learn English. For those already in our country, there will be no special privileges," McCain said.
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"The two million people who have committed crimes will be deported immediately"
As far as I can tell every illegal immigrant (conservatively estimated at 12 million) has "commited crimes" by, you know, immigrating illegally.
Not that that is the only thing dishonest about the ad, but that seemed the one area where the ad not only contradicted what we know about McCain's policies, but the text of the ad itself.
Hey, he's listened and learned, now shut up and vote for him!
He can stop the immigration ads now. We didn’t believe them anyway and now he doesn’t need us.
His idea of a fence is a single strand of barb wire backed up with non-functioning electronic surveliance towers.
Backed up by two Border patrol agenst per 500 miles in a rusted out Chevy Blazer..with no budget for gas.
The only thing he's learned is that he has to move faster the next time he tries to jam this down our throats.
No special privileges? Geez, thanks. How about boot them out of the country?
I heard the add, it sounded the same as the bill they tried to force on us in June. “Pay a fine, go to the back of the line...” Again, assuming everyone wants to become a citzen.
The man has no consideration at all for what may be awaiting him after death. He may be an atheist or he may be a psychotic veteran who gained power so fast that no one thought to wonder what his Vietnamese captors did to his mind all that time they had him.
Shouldn’t be president for this question alone.
“The only thing he’s learned is that he has to move faster the next time he tries to jam this down our throats.”
Well, California Republicans gave him over 43% of the vote. He blew out Romney.
As far as I’m concerned, California just handed itself over to Mexico tonight. I don’t expect McCain to accomplish a damn thing.
His strategy is probably to promote a bill that, like McCain-Kennedy, contains some enforcement provisions together with a mass amnesty plus some new guest worker program. That’s the reason we’re getting so much resistance to any enforcement. They want to keep it available to force us to accept the pro-illegal alien measures.
I probably heard his meaningless radio ad come on 10 times today.
Shouldnt be president for this question alone.”
As an atheist myself I’m going to have a tough time endorsing that bizarre opinion.
McCain is dishonest, wrong about immigration, energy policy and in many other areas, but I don’t care what his religious beliefs are. Huckabee bothers me because he seems to think I should care about his religious beliefs.
Build a fence, by all means. Put up 2 rows of those “noise barriers” that line the freeways in the suburbs. It’d take a very long ladder to scale one. And be sure to plant cactus inbetween the two sets of walls.
But a simple chain link job that stops and starts won’t do much good. And a set of unmanned webcams does even less good.
“Sanctuary” cities and driver’s licenses for people who lie about their identity and aren’t citizens are horrible for our nation. But combined with motor voter they do wonders for DNC voters.
There. Fixed that.
We are told that the workers are needed because Americans won’t do these jobs at those low wages (below minimum wage) anymore.
And then we are told that citizenship for these immigrants is good because it encourages them to get an education and to get better jobs (presumably that Americans DO want) and then we need a new batch of low skilled low paid immigrants...
THere are approximately 2 million illegals who have committed other crimes. RIght now we can’t deport them, because ICE has a strict limit on how many they process. My county is spending a million dollars a year to keep them incarcerated. We have a program to identify them when we arrest them, and to hold them, but ICE won’t take them.
If McCain isn’t lying, it would be a great thing if he was willing to spend the money to get these people off our hands.
Meanwhile, yes, they are “illegal”.
But so is the kid who cuts through your back yard, but my guess is that unless the kid trashes something or steals things while he is there, you probably just let it go. You probably don’t think of them as law-breakers.
In our zeal to ensure that people understand that being here is a crime, we shouldn’t let that keep us from understanding a common-sense discussion of the issue. Words are just how we communicate.
But so is the kid who cuts through your back yard, but my guess is that unless the kid trashes something or steals things while he is there, you probably just let it go. You probably dont think of them as law-breakers.”
To follow through on the analogy, I might not want the kid prosecuted, but I would like him to stop. I don’t require that all 12 million+ illegal immigrants be prosecuted, just that they be deported so they stop breaking the law.
“The two million people who have committed crimes will be deported immediately”
I am sure McCain will get a posse on that immediately:->
I have mixed thoughts about deporting incarcerated illegals (imprisoned for felonies, etc).
I am afraid Mexico just lets them go and they come back. I don’t know it, I just suspect.
In that case, is it not better to keep them, for the duration of their sentences, in our prisons - then send them back?
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