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LIVE THREAD Super Tuesday 2008
5 February 2008

Posted on 02/05/2008 6:10:39 AM PST by SE Mom

Here we go...

The Democrat nominee needs 2,025 to win.

The Republican nominee needs 1,191 to win.


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KEYWORDS: defeatmccain; elections; hillary; livethread; mcamnesty; primary; rino; supertuesday
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To: tlj18

If I were to guess, they are taking Alaska into account, which would be 8pm Alaska Time, 10pm Pacific, and 1am Eastern


401 posted on 02/05/2008 12:17:20 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: kcat
Be careful what you wish for...you may get it. I think we underestimate what Obama stands for and how easily he hypnotizes the sheeple.
402 posted on 02/05/2008 12:17:27 PM PST by tsmith130
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To: conservativegramma
Rassmussen hasn't seen the debates yet.
403 posted on 02/05/2008 12:17:40 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Colofornian

Just want to know and maybe you can answer, do the mormons believe in replacement theology?


404 posted on 02/05/2008 12:17:56 PM PST by make no mistake
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Meant ‘The Pack Knight’ post 313


405 posted on 02/05/2008 12:18:08 PM PST by TCats
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To: wiggen
who? when? did someone proclaim themselves a God? i missed those headlines.

What did Marion G. Romney, cousin of his father George, espouse as one of the Top Three Head Haunchos of the entire church?

"We all know that like begets like and that for the offspring to grow to the stature of his parent is a process infinitely repeated in nature. We can therefore understand that for a son of God to grow to the likeness of his Father in heaven is in harmony with natural law. We see this law demonstrated every few years in our own experience. Sons born to mortal fathers grow up to be like their fathers in the flesh. This is the way it will be with spirit sons of God. They will grow up to be like their Father in heaven. Joseph taught this obvious truth. As a matter of fact, he taught that through this process God himself attained perfection. From President Snow's understanding of the teachings of the Prophet on this doctrinal point, he coined the familiar couplet: "As man is, God once was; as God is, man may become." This teaching is peculiar to the restored gospel of Jesus Christ." - Elder Marion G. Romney, General Conference, October 1964

Romney is a 6-generation Mormon. Who is he descended from? Parley P. Pratt, who became LDS the same year the Book of Mormon was published. Parley Pratt, who became an “apostle” of the LDS church 5 years later, converted & baptized his brother, Orson, in 1830. Who was Orson Pratt in LDS contexts? According to Signature Books,Publisher of The Essential Orson Pratt, Pratt was the first to write and publish an account of Smith's famous "first vision," and he authored one of the earliest confessions of Mormon doctrine, which Smith later used in composing his own "Articles of Faith." Pratt edited the Latter-day Saints' Millennial Star, The New York Messenger, The Seer, and The Prophetic Almanac, the latter consisting of astrological observations, folk wisdom, theological essays, and one of the first LDS statements that humans could become gods.

Pratt wrote: "...men, through obedience, attain to the fullness of all knowledge and become gods...they exist first as spirits, then as men clothed with mortal flesh, then as gods clothed with immortal tabernacles." LDS Apostle Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 130, 1853.

At least two LDS "prophets"--John Taylor--the one who was converted to the LDS faith by Romney's ancestor, Parley P. Pratt, taught that man is a "god-in-embryo"...Spencer W. Kimball, LDS prophet, also reiterated this phrase as applied to temple-worthy Mormons in 1969.

What does Mitt Romney say about the faith of his fathers?

"I believe in my Mormon faith and I endeavor to live by it. My faith is the faith of my fathers – I will be true to them and to my beliefs….[I] will not...disavow one or another of its (faith of his fathers) precepts...." (Mitt Romney, Dec. 6, 2007)

Earlier in 2007 he said: II know there are some people hoping that I will simply declare in some way that my church is all well and good, but that I don't really believe it and I don't try to follow it. That's not going to happen. I'm proud of my faith. I love my faith. It is the faith of my fathers and mothers. I do my best to live by its teachings."

Mitt Romney is his own words--saying he tries to do his best to live by its teachings! The LDS hierarchy doesn’t just let anyone become a 2-time LDS bishop and one time stake president.

On top of that, Romney's temple oath he took to the LDS church was one where he would "consecrate himself, his time, talents and EVERYTHING he now has, or WILL HAVE IN THE FUTURE, for the building up of the Kingdom of God here upon the earth, and FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF ZION.”

Allow me to define "Zion" as the LDS PR Web site defines its primary meaning: "membership in the [LDS] church."

406 posted on 02/05/2008 12:18:21 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: BurbankKarl

They have Massachusetts closing at 2 a.m.


407 posted on 02/05/2008 12:18:28 PM PST by tlj18 (Romney is the only acceptable choice the remains... don't let McCain-Huckabee happen!!!)
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To: kcat

Suggestions?

Go vote Romney, McDole won’t win against either Democrat.


408 posted on 02/05/2008 12:19:10 PM PST by Son House (The Democrat's High Tax Rates Suppress American Freedom, Opportunity and Jobs..)
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To: kcat

Please vote for Mitt!


409 posted on 02/05/2008 12:20:05 PM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: tsmith130

EXACTLY.


410 posted on 02/05/2008 12:20:17 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: kcat

Advice? Yes VOTE ROMNEY!!!
I am praying for a GOP brokered convention, however the chances of that are slim, considering the disgusting display by McCain and Huckabe (the “Christian”) and the back door dirty scheming and CRAP they are pulling in W Va..
The whole thing makes me weep for my country.
I am going to my caucus tonight...and praying as I vote for Romney...
ALI? As an aside, can you FReep mail me some down and dirty fact sheets on Huck and McCain” (After being on the Levin thread with you for a few years, I figure if anyone has the stuff, YOU will ;-) Thanks


411 posted on 02/05/2008 12:20:45 PM PST by MagUSNRET
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To: tsmith130

I just wonder if being so new Obama has enough favors to call in when needed. I know he has the Kennedy’s and Robert DeNiro...I just really fear the damage from that woman, Mrs. Clinton.


412 posted on 02/05/2008 12:21:01 PM PST by kcat
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To: SE Mom
Weather may affect the Ohio,

Ohio doesn't vote until March

413 posted on 02/05/2008 12:21:20 PM PST by estrogen (.)
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To: Colofornian
If he is, he's a fool. American Mormons are significantly outnumbered by Americans who mistrust Mormons. Romney's not going to win the nomination by carrying Utah and Nevada.

Romney stands to gain little by playing up his Mormon identity, while Huckabee stands to gain a great deal by running on his Evangelical identity. At the very lowest estimate, self-described Evangelical Protestants outnumber Mormons in the United States by ratio of ten to one. At the highest, the ratio is eighteen to one. That means Huckabee's third of Evangelicals represents three to six times the number of votes Romney's near 100% of Mormons does.

I think the purpose of Romney's speech last month was to make himself palatable to Evangelical Protestants and Catholics who were predisposed to distrusting Mormons. It wasn't to gain an advantage; it was to counter the serious disadvantage he faces by virtue of his adherence to a religion with a very spotty reputation in this country.
414 posted on 02/05/2008 12:21:33 PM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: Son House
Hillary was just interviewed on Fox. She’s a happy camper. Her dream is almost within reach...

It just occurred to me that McCain is the spoiler for Hillary. He’ll be a roll-over in the general.

415 posted on 02/05/2008 12:22:47 PM PST by khnyny (Quid Est Veritas)
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To: GodBlessUSA
;)
416 posted on 02/05/2008 12:22:51 PM PST by La Enchiladita (I'm on the Mitt-Mobile!!!)
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To: khnyny
Did your Momma drop you on your head as a baby?

I'm a Massachusetts resident and I voted for Duncan Hunter.

No regrets.

No apologies.

417 posted on 02/05/2008 12:22:55 PM PST by Momaw Nadon ("...with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world.")
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To: Colofornian
What does Mitt Romney say about the faith of his fathers?

My concern is what he says about leading the United States of America.

The Founders came to these shores to escape a religous test in their government; would you seek to have it reimposed?

418 posted on 02/05/2008 12:22:56 PM PST by TonyInOhio (Looks like I need to brush up on my Spanish.)
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To: TCats

TCats,
sorry for posting to you. I’m not sure what the original
poster had in mind.
ampu


419 posted on 02/05/2008 12:23:14 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: MagUSNRET; Miss Didi

Thanks. This is tough.


420 posted on 02/05/2008 12:23:36 PM PST by kcat
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