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Posted on 02/04/2008 12:40:53 PM PST by maui_hawaii

I am making assumptions here but I do have some questions about procedures etc.

Lets assume tommorrow does not break hard one way or another for McClame or Romney... Lets say those two split things almost right down the middle.

Now lets also say that Huckabee pulls off a miracle and actually wins some delegates... and lets say he even wins a state...(arkansas)...

But, if you do the math Huckabee would have no way to win the race, so he would probably drop out.

If that happens then what happens to Huckabee's delegates (generally speaking) if he decides to drop out?


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1 posted on 02/04/2008 12:40:54 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii

Huckabee has no need to drop out any more than Mo Udall did in ‘76 or Ron Paul right now. The delegates would be free to vote for whomever they choose.


2 posted on 02/04/2008 12:42:26 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (Not a newbie, I just wanted a new screen name.)
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To: maui_hawaii

If he drops out, he’ll broker a deal with the delegates he has or he’ll just sign them over to McCain.


3 posted on 02/04/2008 12:43:42 PM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Dr. Sivana
In those states that say 'delegates awarded by congressional district' or something like that...

If Huck drops out... say he got 50% of the vote in Arkansas, McCain got 24% and Romney got 26%...

Would those delegates have to be split between the remaining candidates as per the actual vote?

If not, then how does it work?

4 posted on 02/04/2008 12:45:37 PM PST by maui_hawaii (the Clintons are in it for themselves, not for the country)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

So he can just sign them over to whoever he wants?


5 posted on 02/04/2008 12:46:35 PM PST by maui_hawaii (the Clintons are in it for themselves, not for the country)
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To: maui_hawaii

Delegates are free to vote for whomever they want, but, usually the candidate endorses one of the remaining and asks his/her delegates to vote that way.

In this case Huck will ask his votes go to McCain. So a vote for Huck will eventaully be a vote for McCain...maybe.


6 posted on 02/04/2008 1:02:35 PM PST by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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To: maui_hawaii; Constitutions Grandchild
So he can just sign them over to whoever he wants?

NO! The Huckster can only release his delegates to vote for whomever they desire. He can ask his delegates to support McCain, but THEY ARE NOT BOUND TO DO SO.
7 posted on 02/04/2008 1:02:57 PM PST by no dems (Politcal Correctness is Fascism)
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To: no dems

In some states I believe delegates are bound by law or at least party rules to vote for the person they are assigned to in the first round balloting, and in some states for the first three rounds of balloting.

In a convention with no clear nominee it might well be that all delegates would vote for their assigned person on the first round of balloting.

It’s after that the horse trading begins. At some point ALL delegates are free to vote for whom they want, even those of candidate who are higher up in the first round. If this wasn’t the case you’d have a deadlock.


8 posted on 02/04/2008 1:11:17 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: maui_hawaii
If Huck drops out... say he got 50% of the vote in Arkansas, McCain got 24% and Romney got 26%...

If Huck's name is on the ballot, and people vote for him, he could earn delegates whether he is still in or not. He can release the delegates if he drops out.

In states with Congressional district allocation, Huck would win (in your example) the at large delegates plus delegates for each congressional district he won. This could be as high as ALL of them (as reagan did in Texas against Ford in '76) or none of them. (Huck is beaten by Romney in half of the districts, and by McCain in the other half).

It isn't complicated. Delegates won by a candidate must follow the state's rules on voting for that candidate. If the candidate is no longer a candidate, the delegate becomes in effect, uncommitted, but known to have been officially willing to support a particular candidate. As recently as '76, Uncommitted won the Iowa caucus, and favorite sons like Daley Sr. would run to keep control of the delegates.
9 posted on 02/04/2008 1:18:11 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (Not a newbie, I just wanted a new screen name.)
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To: maui_hawaii

Face it folks, its over. The drive by media has managed to fool enough people who think of themselves as Republicans that McCain is someng he is not. This will reamin so until McCain gets the nomination, and then the drive by media will destroy McCain. It has all been set up by George Soros and the lib media. I am amazed how many people can’t see it. Most of all McCain, who in his blind ambition can’t see what is going to happen to him as soon as he is nominated.


10 posted on 02/04/2008 1:21:23 PM PST by TonyM (E)
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To: maui_hawaii

“Lets assume tommorrow does not break hard one way or another for McClame or Romney... Lets say those two split things almost right down the middle.”

Not sure how that would happen considering the number of delegate-rich winner-takes-all states that McCain is going to pick up fairly easily.


11 posted on 02/04/2008 1:30:37 PM PST by UKTory
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To: maui_hawaii

The Huck will not get out. He helps McCain by staying in, compared to getting out and endorsing McCain. He’s bought, and paid for by McCain.


12 posted on 02/04/2008 1:43:43 PM PST by oflyboy
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To: no dems

Right. They are not bound to do so, but something tells me they won’t be beating a path to Romney.


13 posted on 02/04/2008 1:52:07 PM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: oflyboy
The Huck will not get out. He helps McCain by staying in, compared to getting out and endorsing McCain. He’s bought, and paid for by McCain.

Bought maybe, but paid for? Not yet.

14 posted on 02/04/2008 1:53:29 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (**insert witty tagline here**)
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To: maui_hawaii

Huckabee’s strategy is to get enough delegates to hold the balance between McCain and Romney, at the Convention. He will then offer to support McCain in exchange for the VP spot on his ticket.


15 posted on 02/04/2008 2:21:39 PM PST by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: maui_hawaii
So he can just sign them over to whoever he wants?

No, it's more complicated than that, but many (probably most) Huckabee delegates would go with Huckabee's choice for President, if it meant their guy might become VP.

16 posted on 02/04/2008 2:23:46 PM PST by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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