Posted on 02/04/2008 11:58:38 AM PST by connell
I cannot think of any tactical information which a Navy pilot could have which would be of any value to an enemy who lacked the capacity to attack an aircraft carrier. Nor can I think of much strategic information which any sensible person would give to a pilot who might be shot down and captured.
No, but he had propaganda value by making recordings the NVA could broadcast.
My main complaint about McCain's is about his actions after he returned home - working to help Hanoi at every opportunity, working for trade relations, working against the POW families, siding with liberal democrats ...
McCain-Kennedy Amnesty Bill.
I think it's safe to say he's a hero.
What did he do to attain hero status?
Well said
To me a hero is someone you look up to. I don’t look up to someone who supports granting due-process rights to unlawful enemy combatants.
If true, and there is no reason to doubt this other POW, those are heroic actions at the time...though I disdain and am 4-square against many of McCain's positions and actions as a politician since...as I pointed out in post #3 on this thread.
It’s silly to make things up about the man when there is so much valid, factual, damning and verifiable evidence against him most issues dear to conservatives.
The McCain deranged are not satisfied with criticism of his political record. These pitiful people feel they must destroy a young Naval Aviator who resisted his captors and refused early release.
If the article above is true and he led, for principles that we all agree with, resistance against people who would frequently torture him; and if he accepted, for those same principles, a state in which torture and simple discomfort were the norm, despite having a chance to leave, then I would say he has attained hero status.
That method is not limited to McCain, they do that to anybody and everybody that they disagree with.
In the end, he showed poor judgement, but his involvement was considerably less than the other four Democrats. If it were not an important election year, his involvement would not have been more than a footnote.
Thanks for the help!
My position stands. Do we really want to get in a spamming war here?
Lurkers can just google it.
I am not trying to be a jerk, simply pointing out somethings that folks do to McCain: They jump on the “ I hate McCain” bandwagon” without really knowing why they dont like him.
It is clear that you dont know much about the Keating mess, which is OK. And there are plenty of reasons not to like a candidate-Lord knows I have a list a yard long not to like the ones I don’t like.
I am not a McCain supporter or apologist. I simply feel that knee-jerk reactions and statements such as the one you made should not go un-challenged.
To compare anything that McCain did to what my Senior Senator did that late Summer night is not justified.
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>>I am not trying to be a jerk, simply pointing out somethings that folks do to McCain: They jump on the “ I hate McCain” bandwagon” without really knowing why they dont like him.<<
I understand that. I am just not one of them.
>>It is clear that you dont know much about the Keating mess, which is OK.<<
I beg to differ. And I have not offered enough information here for you to make an informed decision what I know, one way or the other. There is plenty of info out there for those that want to know though.
My standards for someone running for the most powerful office in the world are pretty high.
Whatever.
When I make a remark that is inflammatory I expect to be able to explain my position, at least on a rudimentary level.
When you when you were asked to explain your statement, you answered with another statement (inferring that he should have gone to jail) that indicated that you did not fully understand the Keating situation, and McCain’s limited involvement in it.
I will let it lie and allow the other readers to come to their conclusion and do the research on their own.
Have a great night.
You too!
It is not that I do not understand the situation. It is that I understand it all too well...
And the information, even that on which the final decision was based, is there for anyone who wants to read up on it.
It is his Chapaquidic, and the parallel fits on several levels, not least of which is the inability to make a reasonable decision.
I’m sure that everything Jim Warner said is true based on his own knowledge of McCain, but that was after McCain was put in with the other POWs. Before that, McCain was kept separate from the other POWs for 2+ years.
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