Shadow Warriors--The untold story of traitors, saboteurs, and the party of surrender.

Frontpagemagazine ^ | 2-4-08 | David Forsmark

[bcsco]

Mercy, mercy, mercy.

[enduserindy]

Wow

[sd-joe]

My goodness. Got to buy this book!

[ripley]

senator mccarthy was right.

[Little Ray]

The State Department does NOT have the USA’s best interest at heart. It was the most heavily communist infiltrated organization in the Federal Government and the people who run it today are legacies of those traitors.

If there has EVER been an organization in the USA that needs a Soviet-style purge (gulags and firing squads) it is the State Department.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

“...a parking lot full of Kerry/Edwards stickers.” So many Volvos. So few keys.

[cd jones]

ALSO “SHADOW PARTY” BY DAVID HOROWITZ

[Justa]

"How Bremer snubbed the sheiks in Anbar Province who are now helping us rout Al Qaeda when they offered their services to him, driving them to Al Qaeda for several years."

Not true and a very ignorant statement. The Anbar sheiks were the heart of the insurgency and headed Al Queda in Iraq; in fact their people staffed and ran it. Their seperation from Al Qaeda et al was a year-long and visible process. When it was publicized that Anbar had significant estimated oil reserves the Anbar sheiks ended operations against the Coaltion almost overnight. Once they made peace with the Coalition Al Qaeda turned against them.

This is all very "duh" information for anyone who followed Iraq closely i.e., read the daily intel reports and BUAs first hand. << clue.

[Southack]

“U.S. foreign policy successes are due in spite of, not because of, CIA and State Department efforts.”

Angelo Codevilla
World recognized master spy

[dsc]

Gee, it was only a few months ago that I was called a nut for alleging this sort of thing here on FR.

[WarEagle]

What Timmerman means is the Al Anbar sheiks offered their services early in the game, and Bremmer snubbed them, thus starting the insurgency.

[sageb1]

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[bukkdems]

“Not true and a very ignorant statement.”

Can you refute this quote from Joe Klein in Time?

“As I reported in September 2005, there is also the scandalous reality that an alliance with the tribes was proposed by U.S. Army intelligence officers as early as October 2003 and rejected by L. Paul Bremer’s Coalition Provisional Authority on the grounds that “tribes are part of the past. They have no place in the new democratic Iraq.”

[Justa]

Signing an "alliance" with the Anbar tribes in October 2003 would most likely have been a ruse. They were and probably still are criminal tribes. ,p>Fighting and killing off many of their soliders went a long way in molding the type of relationship we have with them now. It's sort of like the British and the Zulus or Ghurkas.

We earned their respect their way and will likely keep it for a long time -unless the politicians screw it up.

[bukkdems]

What kind of idiot (referring to Bremer) does not know that Arab civilization is based on tribes and bribes? It is the sheiks who arrange marriages, settle arguments, divvy up jobs and arrange all the bribes. It was the height of arrogance and ignorance to think you could change that system by snapping your fingers as a conqueror.

Even Ghengis Khan had better military sense than that.

[Justa]

C'mon now Bremmer's the one who rejected tribalism which even Saddam couldn't conquer. And 4 years later, guess what, -it worked! The Iraqis are now working together through shared power for a common future! Even the Iraqis think it's incredible but it was INSISTED that that was the only way a pluralistic, democratic republic could function.

Bremmer should be vindicated on his vision. Who'd have ever thought they'd work together for a common goal? A: Almost no one. But they have and they do and Iraq and those who guided them should all be recognized for their sacrifices and achievements.

[Old Sarge]

The cancer has metastasized, and the patient is terminal.

[Chgogal]

This post may interest you.

[PGalt]

Thanks for the ping Chgogal. Very interesting.