Posted on 02/04/2008 12:32:58 AM PST by ThePythonicCow
Will `Ace' McCain Flame Out Again? - Brief Article
Kelly Patricia O'Meara
Over the years he's played many roles and worn many titles, including Navy aviator, prisoner of war, hero, congressman, U.S. senator, Washington insider, maverick outsider and, now, presidential candidate. But the one title of which few are aware is that of "service ace."
John Sidney McCain III is known among many of his Vietnam flight buddies as "Ace" McCain. This title has not been bestowed upon McCain because he destroyed five enemy aircraft. On the contrary: It was five on our side -- in fact, five of his own. Since throwing his hat into the presidential ring, the fact that McCain was graduated from the U.S. Naval Academy nearly at the bottom of his class has been publicized. His star-crossed flying, on the other hand, remains unknown to most.
Robert Timberg, author of The Nightingale's Song, a book about Annapolis graduates and their tours in Vietnam, wrote that McCain "learned to fly at Pensacola, though his performance was below par, at best good enough to get by. He liked flying, but didn't love it." Timberg counts himself a friend of McCain and has written a McCain biography.
It wasn't long after arriving in Pensacola that McCain racked up the first of his five crashes, beginning in 1958, on his way to becoming a "reverse ace." As told by Timberg, "McCain was practicing landings; his engine quit and he plunged into Corpus Christi Bay. Knocked unconscious by the impact, he came to as the plane settled to the bottom."
There was, however, no engine failure with the aircraft. According to one of McCain's former flight instructors, "The engine was removed from the aircraft that afternoon, mounted on a test stand and a new propeller installed. [It] was flushed with fresh water and started. It ran just fine. So the theory of engine failure was proven false."
The instructor added that McCain was "positively one of the weakest students to pass our way, and received consistently poor marks and a number of Dangerous Down grades assigned by more than one instructor. He had no real ability and was clearly out of his element in an airplane, and way over his head even as a junior naval officer."
The second of McCain's crashes occurred while he was deployed in the Mediterranean. "Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula," reports Timberg, "he took out some power lines [reminiscent of the 1998 incident in which a Marine Corps jet sliced through the cables of a gondola at an Italian ski resort, killing 20] which led to a spate of newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the son of an admiral."
Crash three occurred when McCain was returning from flying a trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game. According to Timberg, McCain radioed, "I've got a flameout." He went through the standard relight procedures three times. At one thousand feet, he ejected, landing on the deserted beach moments before the plane slammed into a clump of trees."
By 1967, McCain was ready for battle and assigned to the USS Forrestal as an A-4 Skyhawk pilot. While seated in the cockpit of his aircraft waiting for takeoff, a freak accident occurred when a rocket slammed into the exterior fuel tank of McCain's plane. Miraculously, McCain escaped from the burning aircraft, but dozens of his shipmates were killed and injured in the explosions that followed.
McCain's final downing came just three months later when his A-4 Skyhawk was hit by antiaircraft artillery over Truc Bach Lake near Hanoi, North Vietnam. McCain spent the next five-and-a-half years as a prisoner of war and, upon return to the United States in 1973, like the other returning POWs, McCain became an instant hero. The POWs had been treated abominably, yet stood up to their torturers and were deserving of the accolades they received. But some questioned the number and types of medals bestowed upon "Ace" McCain, the son of the admiral commanding in the Pacific as well as the grandson of another admiral.
"McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat," explains Bill Bell, a veteran of Vietnam and chief of the U.S. Office for POW/MIA Affairs -- the first official U.S. representative in Vietnam since the 1973 fall of Saigon. "Since McCain got 28 medals," Bell continues, "that equals out to about a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat. There were infantry guys -- grunts on the ground -- who had more than 7,000 hours in combat and I can tell you that there were times and situations where I'm sure a prison cell would have looked pretty good to them by comparison. The question really is how many guys got that number of medals for not being shot down."
"John McCain," says another Navy pilot and acquaintance of that era, "was the kind of guy you wanted to room with -- not fly with. He was reckless, and that's critical when you start thinking about who's going to be the president," The old pilot laughs, and then continues: "But the Navy accident rate was cut in half the day John McCain was shot down."
On a more serious note, however, there has been no discussion of what actions were or were not taken in dealing with McCain after each of the aircraft losses. Neither McCain's senatorial nor campaign offices returned Insight's calls on these matters. But a Navy insider notes that "after every such incident an inquiry is conducted to conclude the cause of the crash. If it were anyone other than the admiral's son, his wings would have been pulled. But that's where that kind of father comes in handy."
"Thank God not all pilots are like McCain," jokes another pilot, "or the government would be buying a hell of a lot more planes."
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Once again, I'll take flak for denigrating his military record. But he's the one still making a big issue of it, emphasizing it in his current campaign commercials. He'd have been grounded long before he got over North Vietnam if his father hadn't been an admiral.
This same article was posted once before on FreeRepublic.com, on Feb 25, 2000 as the thread http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a38b758995c99.htm. That thread is now locked, as are all threads older than a certain date.
The original source for that earlier thread, Insight Magazine still has the article in its archives. Search for the title " Will `Ace' McCain Flame Out Again?" in the archives there to find it, in the archive of the 3/20/2000 edition of Insight Magazine. The full text of the article requires a paid subscription there, though it is freely available at the the above bnet link.
The Navy definitely has a “blue-blood” aristocracy element where reputations are hereditary. The son of an Admiral is automatically launched on a career track that will eventually take him to his own flag, providing he doesn’t screw up too badly.
Not all follow the rules, though. My boot camp company had the son of an Admiral who refused all family pressure to apply for the academy or even consider NROTC. After one particularly hectic family fight he decided to do the Navy his own way — and enlisted.
Always wondered what happened to him.
Bump!
My Dad had five wartime crashes in four years, was a doctor's son, and the Navy gave him five more planes to take into enemy airspace. This isn't like driving a VW beetle, y'know.
He destroyed his own instead of the enemy? That sounds familiar.
The questions arise when one begins to look into the details a bit more. If some of the crashes resulted from pilot error, then that pilot is likely to be grounded. At least when I was in the U.S. Air Force, it was like that.
Certainly, in other situations, such as if you were in Great Britain in World War II, then if you could still fly, you went back up. And certainly, perhaps in the U.S. Navy more than the junior service Air Force, it matters who is one's daddy.
The more damning part of this story of McCain, in my view, was his low ratings and the apparent cause of at least a couple of the crashes being pilot error. And even that part would warrant no more than a passing amused smile and appreciation for his luck at staying alive, if he had the good grace to be more modest about his exploits.
The good fighter pilots I knew (and McCain was not flying fighters, but rather ground attack bombers) were more likely cool, low key men. McCain seems to have a record of being a brash publicity whore, which isn't what I'd want on my wing ... or in the White House.
I don’t want McManiac anywhere near the presidency. But to blame him for the 4th incident, in which a ‘freak accident’ occurred, is unfair. It sounds as if his plane wasn’t even moving and this ‘crash’ (author’s words) could have happened to anyone.
I don’t know the details of how he was shot down, but it may be unfair, as well, to blame him for that unless he did something stupid.
O’Meara doesn’t need to use Democrat or DU tactics to make Juan’s record look worse than it was. It makes her look bad, instead. That said, I think “Ace” is a nutcase ready to explode and I hope it happens before he gets into the White House.
BUMP!
BUMP!
That has been in spite of blue-bloods like McLaim. It’s the rest of the non-annointed Navy that makes the Navy run as a successful entity.
I’ve known about McCain’s fitness as a Naval aviator for a number of years. During my military career I’ve seen the “legacy” officers who were given the desireable jobs and promotions because of who their father or grandfather was and who were as clueless as the day is long. He’s a fraud who has always felt he was entitled. I served with another officer who was personally a great guy but who had 4 DWIs, one while on duty, to his credit over a 20 year period. This person was still promoted all the way along to the rank of full colonel because of who he was connected to.
Substitute "students" with "presidents", and "airplane" with "Oval Office" and you'll pretty much predict how history will judge a McCain Presidency.
“The questions arise when one begins to look into the details a bit more. If some of the crashes resulted from pilot error, then that pilot is likely to be grounded. At least when I was in the U.S. Air Force, it was like that.”
McCain certainly wasn’t responsible for the ‘crash’ on the U.S.S. Forrestal.
“By 1967, McCain was ready for battle and assigned to the USS Forrestal as an A-4 Skyhawk pilot. While seated in the cockpit of his aircraft waiting for takeoff, a freak accident occurred when a rocket slammed into the exterior fuel tank of McCain’s plane. Miraculously, McCain escaped from the burning aircraft, but dozens of his shipmates were killed and injured in the explosions that followed.”
Listing that as being McCain’s fault defeats the entire argument the writer was trying to make.
That you would misread this as blaming McCain for this one defeats the entire argument that you were trying to make.
How in any way did McCain "lose" the aircraft on the Forrestal? It is very disingenuous to list that as an aircraft McCain lost.
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