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Betrayed by John McCain
salon.com ^ | Feb. 04, 2008 | Jim Nintzel

Posted on 02/03/2008 10:24:06 PM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 02/03/2008 10:24:06 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

McCain is a RINO. However I am voting ABC (Anybody But Clinton)
I would vote for him over Obama. He is a extreme liberal as well.
I wont stay home becasue that is a vote for demo-rats.


2 posted on 02/03/2008 10:32:35 PM PST by truemiester ((If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years))
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To: neverdem

One of the good things about having McLame as the candidate is that I won’t, unlike the previous two elections, fret about the outcome for months prior.


3 posted on 02/03/2008 10:32:49 PM PST by MarkeyD (Just another country bumpkin looking forward to Fred!)
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To: neverdem

A lot of the hatred for McCain is irrational. I’ve felt it myself. I don’t like the way the guy offers cover to the enemy (left). One thing that will make or break both Romney or McCain will be who they pick for their VP whichever wins provided a brokered convention doesn’t occur. (I still hold out hope)


4 posted on 02/03/2008 10:32:54 PM PST by Maelstorm ("Christ didn’t tell us to go to the government...He told us to do it." Fred Thompson)
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To: neverdem

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“...McCain haters, while vocal, are so out of step with the majority of voters...”
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Over and over and over again, the supporters of McCain in this article said that us wackos are out of step over immigration. They don’t understand. For us it is a law and order issue. Our country is being ravaged by anarchists who know they can get by with ignoring our laws, abetted by the Federal Government.

We need to change the government in Washington, D.C. Say NO to McCain.


5 posted on 02/03/2008 10:33:25 PM PST by SatinDoll (Desperately seeking a conservative candidate.)
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To: neverdem
"It's the wacko end of our party -- the people who have a whole litmus test of hard-nosed immigration issues and social issues..."

I see, so a desire for a strong policy on illegal immigration now makes me a wacko, huh?

What a joke this guy is.

"Hellon says the McCain haters, while vocal, are so out of step with the majority of voters that 'anybody they would support will never, ever win a general election.'"

We are not out of step with the majority; they are out of step with us.
6 posted on 02/03/2008 10:36:55 PM PST by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: neverdem
Mr. Haney ... Call it a banana if you want to, it's not an amnesty.


7 posted on 02/03/2008 10:37:03 PM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: SatinDoll
Over and over and over again, the supporters of McCain in this article said that us wackos are out of step over immigration. They don’t understand.

No they don't because they're too busy making excuses for McCain. It wasn't a tiny but loud minority that shut down the phone lines in DC last June, it was the vast majority of the population absolutely opposed to their scheme.

8 posted on 02/03/2008 10:38:48 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: neverdem
Haney, a 66-year-old retired IBM engineer, has been a persistent thorn in McCain's side in recent years. One of his main missions is to reveal what he sees as the truth about McCain: "We in the conservative Republican base do not feel he is a Republican. He is a liberal-moderate."

Sorry dude. The fact is that McCain is a Republican, not that the Republican party is conservative.

9 posted on 02/03/2008 10:39:00 PM PST by GATOR NAVY (Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.)
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To: truemiester

You really think he is better than the Democrats!

Go to his website, the one that far-left crazies like George Soros (Tides Foundation) and the Environmental Defense Fund donate to so he can hide their 10s of thousands of dollars of donations from our knowledge.

http://www.reforminstitute.org

Read what his progressive thinktank recommends he do when in power.


10 posted on 02/03/2008 10:39:11 PM PST by SatinDoll (Desperately seeking a conservative candidate.)
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To: neverdem

Sweet Jeebus. Iraq, Iraq, Iraq. It isn’t Iraq. The rank and file don’t even know that there is a WAR ON, for cryin’ out loud. No one is campaigning on it (aside from that toadstool Obama) and now that the surge has actually worked (despite the predictions and redefinitions from those Kreskins at the dailies) it’s been pretty much a hands-off issue all around.

Y’know, I read FR every day, and after reading through article after article that are so detached from reality, I wonder if I am some freaky square planet called “bizarro world”. Then I read some of the responses from people here who would pay for the “privilege” to floss with McCain’s armpit hairs and I wonder how I got here.

Good freaking grief. This entire election cycle is a top to bottom debacle. Wake me when it’s over and let me know if the good guys won.

APf


11 posted on 02/03/2008 10:47:44 PM PST by APFel (Regnum Nostrum Crescit)
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To: neverdem

for later


12 posted on 02/03/2008 10:50:24 PM PST by AprilfromTexas
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To: SatinDoll

Honestly, a good portion of those who are boiling mad at McCain’s amnesty bill aren’t particularly conservative in other areas. These are people that don’t have strong feeling about abortion, are displeased over Iraq, and don’t even know or care to know what McCain-Feingold is all about.

To some degree I wince when I hear anyone declare that McCain is the most electable candidate. Most people who aren’t that into politics only know John McCain as the guy behind Iraq and illegal immigration - two unpopular issues. Of course, maybe some people will allow the sentimentality of a war hero becoming president decide their vote; but then again, exactly how successful was that sentimentality for Kerry in 2004?


14 posted on 02/03/2008 10:54:02 PM PST by eclecticEel (oh well, Hunter 2012 anyone?)
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To: ARE SOLE
"You are but not me. I am for Rommney."

You just made my point. Hell, why don't WE just nominate Hillary if she loses to Obama ? Liberal Scumney can get stuffed.

16 posted on 02/03/2008 10:58:04 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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You should be more respectful of your future Commander in Chief, President Rommney!
17 posted on 02/03/2008 11:01:27 PM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: eclecticEel

Not just 2004, Dole was a war hero and he lost to Clinton. President Bush’s father was also a former military guy and he lost to Clinton.


18 posted on 02/03/2008 11:05:40 PM PST by psjones (u)
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To: eclecticEel
To some degree I wince when I hear anyone declare that McCain is the most electable candidate. Most people who aren’t that into politics only know John McCain as the guy behind Iraq and illegal immigration - two unpopular issues. Of course, maybe some people will allow the sentimentality of a war hero becoming president decide their vote; but then again, exactly how successful was that sentimentality for Kerry in 2004?

Pardon me, I thought John Kerry was the anti-war hero. If being a war hero was such a plus, how come Bush the Elder and Bob Dole flopped?

19 posted on 02/03/2008 11:06:37 PM PST by neverdem (I have to hope for a brokered GOP Convention. It can't get any worse.)
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To: neverdem
"It's the wacko end of our party -- the people who have a whole litmus test of hard-nosed immigration issues and social issues," Hellon says.

Okay, Mike. Let's take another look at the list of "wacko" items on the "hard-nosed litmus test:

John McCain is the alleged "Reagan" Republican who.....

1. Wanted to be John F’n Kerry’s running mate....
2. Was a corrupt member of the “Keating Five”....
3. Has been duped by the Euro-socialist “global warming” alarmists....
4. Wants to roll out the red carpet for the illegal alien hordes....
5. Was one of two senators (along with the ignoble Lincoln Chafee) who originally joined the Democrats in voting against the Bush tax cuts....
6. Proudly put his name to the most dangerous assault on free speech (McCain-Feingold) in the nation’s history....
7. Opposes the effective interrogation technique known as “waterboarding”, and wants to close Gitmo so he can bring captured terrorists to the United States where he can "lawyer them up" and give them access to the courts....
8. Joins the environmental extremists in opposing drilling for oil in a relatively miniscule section of the frozen, barren, wasteland known as ANWR....
9. Is older than Bob Dole was when Dole ran for President in 1996, and who would be the oldest man in history to try to win the Presidency as a major party candidate....
10. Impeded conservative initiatives in the Senate at nearly every opportunity, according to a genuine conservative, former Senator Rick Santorum (R - PA).

The problem, Mike, is that you consider the above to be the concerns of "the wacko end of our party".
Well, take a hike, Mike. And take your liberal wacko McCain with you.

20 posted on 02/03/2008 11:14:36 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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