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China: Tanks sent to deice storm-affected highways (now out to major highways)
China Daily ^ | 02/03/08

Posted on 02/03/2008 7:12:28 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Tanks sent to deice storm-affected highways

(Xinhua) Updated: 2008-02-03 19:30

CHAOHU, Anhui -- The Chinese army has sent out tanks to clean the icy expressways in eastern Anhui Province.

Tanks roll on the Beijing-Zhuhai Expressway to deice the snow- and ice-covered road surface as soldiers shovel snow in Chenzhou, Central China's Hunan Province, February 3, 2008. [Xinhua]

Two tanks have finished their work Sunday, deicing 110-km surface of two expressways in the province, said military sources here Sunday.

Traffic on the Hefei-Anqing and Hefei-Wuhu expressways had suffered heavy snow in the past week with thousands of vehicles stranded.

The tanks were sent there Thursday evening, but it took them more than 30 hours to cover the distance that usually costs just two and half hours in normal weather, due to the dense traffic jam on the way.

They started deicing the road on early Saturday morning, the source said.

The People's Liberation Army (PLA) of China had deployed 306,000 soldiers to combat the worst winter storm in five decades.

About 1.07 million militia and army reservists were also participating in the relief efforts.

Other military vehicles such as field kitchen trucks and armored cars are playing an important role in de-icing and rescue missions. More than 100 aircraft and helicopters remained on standby, air force sources said.

Armored cars are busy deicing the road surface along the Beijing-Zhuhai expressway, a south-north trunk road that have been repeatedly affected by the winter storm.

On Saturday, the air force had sent three transporters to help ship relief material from southern Guangdong Province to neighboring most-affected Hunan Province.

Meanwhile, two transporters flew to the southwestern province of Guizhou, carrying 5.5 tons of relief material and equipment including food, medicine and quilts.

By 1:33 p.m. on Saturday, the first of six helicopters loaded with relief goods, deployed by the Chengdu Military Area in southwest China, flew to Yibin, Sichuan Province. The copters were to airdrop 5,500 quilts over snow-hit areas in Dazhou and Yibin's Changning County, which on top of the snow was hit by a medium-intensity earthquake early on Friday.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; deice; snow; snowstorm; tank; weather; weirdweather
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To: familyop

From the look of the tread pattern, I would figure that that tire gets pretty decent wet-pavement traction as well.


21 posted on 02/03/2008 8:04:20 PM PST by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: OCC
Hard to believe the PLA does not have a few available.

Tanks to deice roads and submachine gun fire to deice power line structures. Yeah. That's the ticket. The tanks and submachine guns might have another functionality. The freezing and starving people keep hearing the sound of submachine gun fire and keep seeing tanks driving all over the place.

Has the US ever deployed tanks and submachine gin fire during a natural (non-riot) disaster ?

22 posted on 02/03/2008 8:06:09 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

gin = gun


23 posted on 02/03/2008 8:07:12 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: familyop

Hankook winter tires work very well here

What kind are they?


24 posted on 02/03/2008 8:13:01 PM PST by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: justa-hairyape

Well, techically, yes. At Snoqualamie Pass here in Wa St. they used to use the 105mm Main Gun from M-60A3 tanks to shoot snowpacks and induce controlled avalanches. Don’t know if that’s still done, but I know our gunners got a kick out of doing it!

Regards,


25 posted on 02/03/2008 8:15:05 PM PST by Thunder 6
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To: Thunder 6

If you look at the picture, about eight guys with snow shovels are working in the shadow of a tank. They’re probably doing the actual work; the tank merely provides some minimal shelter from the weather, food, and fresh snow shovels. (The Chinese aren’t known for their efficiency.)

I think even Phoenix or Mississippi or Florida or probably even Louisiana could handle this type of wintertime natural disaster better than what we see from the People’s Republic of China. Chenzhou, a city of 4 million people slightly colder on average than Jackson (Mississippi), hasn’t had any electric power for two weeks.


26 posted on 02/03/2008 8:15:49 PM PST by dufekin (Name the leader of our enemy: Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, terrorist dictator)
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To: familyop
I live in a remote place at high altitude in the mountains

Do you really live at high altitude or at high elevation? I would think that high altitude would be more like living in a balloon or something.

27 posted on 02/03/2008 8:17:55 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurtureā„¢)
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To: Thunder 6

Thanks for that info. China does not have avalanche problems. Snow fall was under a foot. We have had some serious avalanches in the US. Saw one video on weather.com where a highway was closed and two vehicles partially buried under an avalanche. It was over 100 feet long and 30 feet deep on the road. The guy removing the avalanche said the amount of snow they had to remove was equal to all the avalanches they have cleared in the last 25 years. So who knows, they may have to call out the big guns yet, but I think they use mortars and helicopter drops nowadays though.


28 posted on 02/03/2008 8:20:45 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: dufekin

Maybe the tank treads (theirs are steel, whereas ours have rubber track pads) break up the ice for the shovel bubbas. Of course, they may be using the exhaust to warm up as well...

Regards,


29 posted on 02/03/2008 8:21:06 PM PST by Thunder 6
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To: OCC

I don’t know, but, those tanks with it’s weight can damage the roads.


30 posted on 02/03/2008 8:23:19 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: dufekin
I think even Phoenix or Mississippi or Florida or probably even Louisiana could handle this type of wintertime natural disaster better than what we see from the People’s Republic of China. Chenzhou, a city of 4 million people slightly colder on average than Jackson (Mississippi), hasn’t had any electric power for two weeks.

Wimps. Those Chinese wouldn't last a day where I live.

31 posted on 02/03/2008 8:23:29 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: TheBattman
"From the look of the tread pattern, I would figure that that tire gets pretty decent wet-pavement traction as well."

...about as good as competing snow tires but not quite as good as some rain tires. They're okay. ...same in snow as moderate off-road tires with a mid-sized four-wheel-drive (very good with the same tires on all fours). The Hankooks do better on well-frozen ice than anything else I've driven. Nothing goes well on snotty, barely frozen ice of the east, but it's almost always frozen pretty hard here.

I drive Goodyears (MT/Rs) when driving a lot (when building) and cheap tires when driving less (doing remote work from home). Over-sized MT/Rs with chains and differentials locked will push through very deep snows (3-4 feet...only fresh snows, as very old, icy deep stuff can blow differentials).
32 posted on 02/03/2008 8:24:39 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: Thunder 6
break up the ice for the shovel bubbas

The shovel bubbas were probably transported by the trucks in the left of the image. So the tanks probably also help clear the road for the trucks. If cars or trucks are stuck on the road, just push them off the road with the tanks.

33 posted on 02/03/2008 8:27:05 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: steve86
"Do you really live at high altitude or at high elevation?"

LOL! We have altimeters in our ground vehicles. ;-)


34 posted on 02/03/2008 8:27:24 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: justa-hairyape

Waco ?


35 posted on 02/03/2008 8:27:29 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: justa-hairyape

Hey, I think we should get a job with the Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission...

Regards,


36 posted on 02/03/2008 8:28:31 PM PST by Thunder 6
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To: Rennes Templar
"What kind are they"

...the kind in the photo in comment #10.


37 posted on 02/03/2008 8:29:40 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: familyop
Over-sized MT/Rs with chains and differentials locked will push through very deep snows (3-4 feet...only fresh snows, as very old, icy deep stuff can blow differentials).

Interesting.

38 posted on 02/03/2008 8:31:08 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurtureā„¢)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
Waco ?

Not exactly a natural disaster, unless you look at what happened after the tanks got done with the 'compound'.

39 posted on 02/03/2008 8:32:07 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: TigerLikesRooster

300,000 soldiers to shovel snow?

I don’t understand this. How is it the chinese are this pathetic in a snow storm, yet they are stealing all our manufacturing jobs like there’s no tomorrow?


40 posted on 02/03/2008 8:34:10 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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