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US navy electro-cannon test successful
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02/01/us_navy_railgun_test_video_success/ ^

Posted on 02/03/2008 12:12:36 PM PST by traumer

The US Navy's electromagnetic railgun project notched up a successful test yesterday. The radical new protoype weapon, operated by the the Naval Surface Warfare Center Dahlgren, fired* shot a hypersonic aluminium slug at approximately Mach 7.5 to generate muzzle energy of 10.6 megajoules.

The Office of Naval Research are hoping that they can scale up their electric cannon to 64-megajoule levels, enabling them to fire heavier projectiles at targets two hundred miles away. Whether electrical pulses of the required magnitude can be generated practicably remains to be seen.

Even if they can be, at present railgun barrels only have a life of three or four shots owing to the terrific stresses placed on them - this problem will also need to be solved.

Still, if these and other technical niggles can be ironed out, the Dahlgren railgun's descendants may genuinely change the rules of the killing game. For now, though, all we have is a pleasing video. ®

*Presumably we can't say that, actually, any more than one could speak of "firing" an arrow from a bow. Blitzed, perhaps?


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: dahlgren; hypercannon; military; miltech; railgun; railguns; usn
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To: Restore
(Sorry, foot / pounds of energy)
21 posted on 02/03/2008 2:19:12 PM PST by Restore (see the Cool Aviation Blog at http://coolaviation.blogspot.com/)
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To: timer
Right, but what type of useable payload could withstand a 150-300,000g initial ride?

(I'm not asking to be smarmy, I just can't think of one.)

22 posted on 02/03/2008 2:26:51 PM PST by Restore (see the Cool Aviation Blog at http://coolaviation.blogspot.com/)
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To: Restore
"Right, but what type of useable payload could withstand a 150-300,000g initial ride?"

Tank of frozen water. Lots of energy in space---make rocket fuel, or air to breath.

23 posted on 02/03/2008 2:31:18 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: traumer; The Drowning Witch
Holy ...............

.............MOLY !!!!

24 posted on 02/03/2008 2:49:29 PM PST by Jackknife ( "The Bureau of Alcohol,Tobacco, and Firearms should be a department store, not a gov't agency.")
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To: Restore

The first payload would be WATER, cryogenically frozen of course because of the superconducting temperatures(90 deg K for HTS). Water for solar steam engines, drinking, bathing, hydroponics, solar flare shield, etc...water, the most useful thing in LEO. So the projectile would be a long stiletto with a lithium pore in the nose, 10 kg minimum, 8 deg min nose angle. Your basic frozen beer can if you will.

This whole EMSL concept/system was worked out by aerospace experts 20 years ago : min vs max projectile mass-range, injection angles(15 deg to 90 deg w/small rocket motors), the technical problems w/rail guns, homopolar generators, quenched suco cannon, etc, etc. Just one EMSL cannon would have put VAST amounts of mass into LEO for less than postage prices(40 cents/oz). Many, many technical papers were written on the subject, O’Neill at MIT was the pioneer of course.

But NASA saw EMSL as a direct threat to their MONEY supply, who wants $20,000/# rockets when EMSL gets it there(LEO)at less than 40 cents/oz? Once again, the love of MONEY is the root of all evil....


25 posted on 02/03/2008 3:55:43 PM PST by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: traumer

080131-N-0000X-001 DAHLGREN, Va. (Jan. 31, 2008) Photograph taken from a high-speed video camera during a record-setting firing of an electromagnetic railgun (EMRG) at Naval Surface Warfare Center, Dahlgren, Va., on January 31, 2008, firing at 10.64MJ (megajoules) with a muzzle velocity of 2520 meters per second. The Office of Naval Research's EMRG program is part of the Department of the Navy's Science and Technology investments, focused on developing new technologies to support Navy and Marine Corps war fighting needs. This photograph is a frame taken from a high-speed video camera. U.S. Navy Photograph (Released)

U.S. Navy Demonstrates World's Most Powerful EMRG at 10 Megajoules

26 posted on 02/03/2008 3:55:53 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: A.A. Cunningham

>2520 meters per second.<

1609.344 meters in a mile. 2520, Yup, that’s fast.


27 posted on 02/03/2008 4:05:57 PM PST by B4Ranch ((Just remember...if the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off. ))
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To: The Duke

This was all very well designed by aerospace experts 20 years ago, they knew exactly how to do it; the cannon, the projectile, the power loads, elevation angles, mountain sites on the equator, etc, etc; only one thing stood in the way : NASA. Heck, there was even a sea launch tube concept, ever heard of Jarvis Island? As to high g accelerations, all the possible components were tested up to 300,000 g; only a clockwork mechanism failed, all others passed.


28 posted on 02/03/2008 5:42:12 PM PST by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: Restore
I can get horsepower and BTUs. Still struggling with joules...
29 posted on 02/03/2008 6:25:40 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: LiberConservative
So how many phone books did it go through evaporated?
30 posted on 02/03/2008 7:37:07 PM PST by Wiz
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To: traumer

Now all the admirals have to do is figure out how to get the damn thing in range of a target before the ship gets creamed by a airborne or static missile.

These guys are still fighting the last big war (WWII) in their bathtubs. Give us a break.


31 posted on 02/03/2008 7:54:34 PM PST by wildbill
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To: wildbill

You may be on to something...


32 posted on 02/03/2008 8:04:03 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: traumer; All
Here is the video. Don't forget to bring popcorn for this entertainment.

Railgun Projectile Test
33 posted on 02/03/2008 9:05:10 PM PST by Wiz
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To: timer
Like you Electro Magnetic Space Launch idea. More ino at http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/273/
34 posted on 02/03/2008 9:10:25 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2

I had to smile when I saw the picture. That’s exactly what I designed 20 years ago : a 1/2 mile diameter ring EMSL cannon. It was basically a bicycle wheel structure on an incline. Track was made of silver(best conductor and HTS metal for mag-lev). Outer rim was like a highway lane w/steel rebar. Hi density concrete between Ag track and rim. Short Q tail w/15 chambers separated by movie film(advance one frame after projectile punches thru, to maintain internal vacuum)for 1 psi differentials.

The projectile(10kg)had a flat diamond cross section(stiletto)and was basically a frozen beer can. 13.75 minutes at 1g acceleration to reach 5 mps injection velocity. Lithium pore or cast-in Li beads in the nose(3 seconds ablation heating at hypersonic speed). Several projectiles at once in the ring = machine gun burst.

I figured about 2 shuttle loads to LEO every day. Since 1# = 4 KW in LEO and with between 1% to 10% system efficiency, it would be about postage rates(40 cents/oz)to put mass into LEO. I had it all thought out 20 years ago(1988)but NASA wanted nothing to do with EMSL, it would have shown them up as bumbling oafs instead of ROCKET SCIENTISTS with their horribly inefficient chemical rockets.

So, Reagan’s plan of bankrupting the USSR by trying to keep up with star wars development funding WORKED, thus SDI funding all but disappeared, as did EMSL as a superior idea. Once again...vested interests....


35 posted on 02/04/2008 10:25:34 PM PST by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: timer
Re: The projectile(10kg)had a flat diamond cross section(stiletto)and was basically a frozen beer can.

Okay, but how long... for the beer to unfreeze?

36 posted on 02/05/2008 9:35:22 AM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2

Good question : how long from sling-a-thing to chug-a-lug?


37 posted on 02/05/2008 12:58:01 PM PST by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: traumer
"...muzzle energy of 10.6 megajoules"

damn!!!

Where can I get one?

38 posted on 02/05/2008 1:05:02 PM PST by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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To: timer
Re: how long from sling-a-thing to chug-a-lug?

Hummmmmmmm.... Let us see--

Sx+(Lxfb10)2 =( (sqrt(LSD3)+24)xS) -((sqrt(Sltz)-2))xT and--

That should come out to... a week from next Thursday around 7:31 PM CST if not a leap year and Sharpton and the Reverend are not around.

39 posted on 02/05/2008 1:35:15 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2

You’d make a good living as a stand-up comic...drunk or sober.


40 posted on 02/05/2008 2:21:59 PM PST by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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