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Why are so many Republicans freaking out about John McCain’s primary success?
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| February 1, 2008
| Lorie Byrd
Posted on 02/02/2008 7:29:44 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy
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To: Enchante
McCain is going to win CA and the other big liberal states, huge. So far he has also won every southern state. Between them, those are nearly all the delegates at stake on super Tuesday. Romney may take the west. That isn't remotely enough.
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posted on
02/02/2008 11:16:45 PM PST
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JasonC
To: JasonC
You don't get it do you. It's not even "conservative pretence". John McCain has not won one single Republican primary or caucus based on "Republican only" votes. Republican-only votes are like counting only the votes of those who voted for your favorite candidate.
No, you don't get it.
This is a Republican primary. Counting Republican-only votes in a Republican primary, when ones logical point is specifically about Republican voters is NOT the same as your nonsequitur example.
As I said, Republicans are freaking out, because McCain hasn't won one primary or caucus amongst "Republican only" voters.
To: onevoter
I think Huck believes if he can damage Mitt enough, he can overtake him for #2 in polling, making him the favorite for Juan's VP slot. He probably knows Romney wouldn't want it if offered.
All the butt-kissing and hugging last week aside, Rudy's campaign was so thoroughly screwed up he may have blown any chance to be McCain's running mate.
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posted on
02/02/2008 11:21:41 PM PST
by
L.N. Smithee
("San Francisco Zoo" is redundant.)
To: FreeReign
You win a primary when you win half or more of the votes legitimately and legally cast in that primary. Pretending that only two thirds of them count, and $3, will get you a cup of coffee at starbucks, but no delegates.
In other words, you remain in deep denial. Go to Tradesports and sell McCain nomination futures short. Don't bet your house, though.
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posted on
02/02/2008 11:25:21 PM PST
by
JasonC
To: JasonC
McCain is going to win CA and the other big liberal states, hugeMitt wins Mass. Mitt has an outside chance at California.
Romney may take the west. That isn't remotely enough
Mitt can do well in the Midwest.
To: JasonC
You win a primary when you win half or more of the votes legitimately and legally cast in that primary. Pretending that only two thirds of them count, and $3, will get you a cup of coffee at starbucks, but no delegates.Listen buddy. Why don you go back and read the question and then read the response and then quit putting words in my mouth. You're not smart enough.
To: L.N. Smithee
Thompson is the likely veep pick. There was never any chance for Rudy, he doesn't bring any voters McCain doesn't already have.
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posted on
02/02/2008 11:26:46 PM PST
by
JasonC
To: JasonC
"Thompson is the likely veep pick."Where did you pull that from?
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posted on
02/02/2008 11:28:53 PM PST
by
endthematrix
(He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
To: FreeReign
I am smart enough for any purpose you can dream of, but you aren't realist enough to face facts plain as a pikestaff six inches in front of your nose. Pundits are not freaking out because McCain hasn't won anything nor because they think he can't win anything, but because he has won several meaningful somethings and threatens to win the whole ball of wax by Tuesday night. You can live in denial if you enjoy it there, but out here in the real world, what to do about that is the subject under discussion. With some saying "never McCain" and others saying "beggars can't be choosers, and this year conservatism is going begging".
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posted on
02/02/2008 11:30:08 PM PST
by
JasonC
To: JasonC
You are very likely correct about what will happen on Tuesday - as I’ve said on other threads I don’t claim any political prognostication expertise and don’t follow polling and demographics enough to know what is likely to happen in any of the “Super Tuesday” states. All I’m saying is that I think McCain has been helped considerably by a supine media that loves a “maverick” RINO (at least until the general election when they will drag out all his flaws).
Also, I agree with you that FReepers should strive to be fact-based and reality-based and not engage in (too much) wishful thinking, beyond the occasional entertaining fantasy of how we wish the world could be...... on that note I wish (1) that we had a real Reagan conservative leading the pack or in the race at all, and (2) that McCain’s candidacy was already fading to oblivion, and (3) that Shrillary and Obama would so damage each other in the primaries that neither would emerge as electable..... but I think I do realize that all of the above are fantasies for this time around.
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posted on
02/02/2008 11:30:43 PM PST
by
Enchante
(Hillary Clinton: As a little girl near Chicago I always dreamed of the NY Giants in the SuperBowl!!)
To: JasonC
Thompson is the likely veep pick. There was never any chance for Rudy, he doesn't bring any voters McCain doesn't already have.If you have been listening to Fred's words over the last six months and if you take Fred at his word, then your statement above is "delusional, silly, but funny as heck".
To: endthematrix
He needs to cover the south, he needs to cover conservatives, they are long time friends, Thompson studiously avoiding burning bridges with him throughout the campaign, and Thompson helped him materially in South Carolina. McCain is 72 years old. Do you think Thompson is going to say "no" and throw a Ann-like hissy fit, if he is asked?
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posted on
02/02/2008 11:32:13 PM PST
by
JasonC
To: Enchante
Thank you. I like your fantasies, those would be nice (lol). I think the media likes McCain for the most obvious of reasons - he is somewhat to the left of the rest of the Republican party and he occasionally sides with Dems, helping them pass things. The media wants the whole spectrum to drift leftward and they see the Republican party becoming a party of McCain as a likely way to do that. They might be wrong about that - conservative defection and such might drag it back, etc. But that is why they like him and build him up compared to other republicans. Not complicated.
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posted on
02/02/2008 11:35:15 PM PST
by
JasonC
To: FreeReign
Find me any candidate for president who said while still running for the top spot that he would accept the second spot instead.
Now, name all the men asked to be veep for their party over the last 40 years who turned it down.
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posted on
02/02/2008 11:37:20 PM PST
by
JasonC
To: JasonC
Q:Why are so many Republicans freaking out about John McCains primary success? My Answer:Because Republicans as a group don't want John McCain. McCain hasn't won one primary or caucus amongst "Republican only" voters.
...but you aren't realist enough to face facts plain as a pikestaff six inches in front of your nose. Pundits are not freaking out because...As I stated now two or three times, Republicans are "freaking out" because Republicans as a group are not choosing their own candidates. That is the track record now through 8 primaries and caucuses.
That is a simple fact. I've neither stated or denied anything else. If you think that trend will change over the final 42 states, that's your guess.
And if you take it as fact, that's your delusion.
To: detective
Ted Kennedy is also gearing up to control Obama. He knows he’s a new comer and he can pull the strings easily.
Mc Cain suck , he’s a Dem all the way ..Obama or Klinton will take the White House. I hope we all learn something from this. The Republican party better learn to play hard ball and fight back or we will be in the trash heap of history in 8 years.
To: JasonC
"Do you think Thompson is going to say "no" That wasn't the reply I was asking for. Thompson as veep is just speculation.
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posted on
02/02/2008 11:46:29 PM PST
by
endthematrix
(He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
To: JasonC
If you have been listening to Fred's words over the last six months and if you take Fred at his word, then your statement above is "delusional, silly, but funny as heck".Find me any candidate for president who said while still running for the top spot that he would accept the second spot instead.
It goes way past Fred not saying while he is still running that he won't except the VP slot.
It goes to what Fred has said over the past six months.
Fred has campaigned on a very different platform compared to John McCain. Fred has said that he nolonger agrees much with John McCain.
As I said, if you have been listening to Fred's words over the last six months and if you take Fred at his word, then your statement that Fred will except a McCain VP slot is off-the-wall.
To: FreeReign
The MSM and multi-national corporations, and chamber of commerce types, do not expect McCain to be president. It is enough for McCain to get the nomination. That provides cover for all the other chicken-Shite politicians to vote for amnesty. He will have proven that he did not pay a price for pushing amnesty.
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posted on
02/02/2008 11:55:27 PM PST
by
calvo
(Your strength isn't what you can do, but what you can endure.)
To: FreeReign
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