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To: junkman72
"limited knowledge of electronics, eh?"

Hardly. I am an electronic engineer by profession. Ask, rather than assume.

I challenge you to describe one item that uses an antenna resonant to any part of the EM spectrum that can gather enough energy to perform actual work without being amplified with another external source of power.

And let's leave out those old science fair air-powered radios that require headphones to produce a weak amount of audio.

8 posted on 02/01/2008 6:56:11 PM PST by Outland (Liberalism is a mental disorder. Socialism is a deep psychosis. Communism is brain cancer.)
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To: Outland

Very few radio receivers (if that’s what you’re referring to) try to use a signal from a transmitter as powerful as the sun.

I’ve heard tell of people living next to 50,000 watt antennas picking up radio signals on their dental work. Does that count?


10 posted on 02/01/2008 7:19:47 PM PST by AZLiberty (President Fred -- I like the sound of it.)
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To: Outland

Try looking here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectenna

and here:
http://www.techbriefs.com/content/view/1981/32/

and here:
http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy03osti/33263.pdf

and here:
http://charon.colorado.edu/Microwave/papers/2000/EuMC_JHnlBP_00.pdf

and here:
http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=/iel1/2220/6808/00274732.pdf?arnumber=274732

and here:
http://sciencelinks.jp/j-east/article/200017/000020001700A0495811.php

and here:
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2003AIPC..664..292A

and here:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3957/is_200008/ai_n8914804

and here:
http://ece.colorado.edu/~pwrelect/Seconddraft/paper_archives/efficientbroadbandrf_apr2005.pdf

The problem in the original article are the rectifier diodes for use at infrared wavelengths, of which the article makes no mention. In metals, such as gold, the extinction length is about 1.5 wavelengths for IR. Semiconductor diodes will not work so other types are needed.


12 posted on 02/01/2008 7:27:09 PM PST by Barry Goldwater ("Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice!")
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To: Outland
I challenge you to describe one item that uses an antenna resonant to any part of the EM spectrum

I can't think of one, but has anyone ever built a 10 million element array before, particularly one tuned to the biggest source of EM available.

I'm skeptical as well. I believe the challenge is gathering and storing anything from the array. Additionally, they make the claim that they "might" be able to achieve very high efficiencies, but how much IR is available? A 95% efficient 1m square panel may not keep my watch running.

13 posted on 02/01/2008 7:29:58 PM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Join our Folding@Home team (Team# 36120) keyword: folding)
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To: Outland

did you even read the article???


14 posted on 02/01/2008 7:31:18 PM PST by junkman72 (just another day at the junkyard/time to buy another handgun(VA req.))
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To: Outland
I challenge you to describe one item that uses an antenna resonant to any part of the EM spectrum that can gather enough energy to perform actual work without being amplified with another external source of power.

Would passive RFID tags qualify?

32 posted on 02/02/2008 3:41:02 AM PST by pa_dweller (South of the border - a phrase fast losing its meaning)
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To: Outland
I challenge you to describe one item that uses an antenna resonant to any part of the EM spectrum that can gather enough energy to perform actual work without being amplified with another external source of power.

H2O molecules in a household microwave oven.

What's my prize?

38 posted on 02/02/2008 7:31:21 AM PST by whd23
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