Posted on 02/01/2008 2:07:00 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
While John McCain has risen to the top of the heap among contenders for the Republican presidential nomination, Focus on the Family founder James Dobson remains adamant that he will not support McCain’s bid for the White House.
Dobson, one of the nation’s most influential evangelical Christians, declared more than a year ago that he wouldn't support McCain under any circumstances, saying McCain didn't support traditional marriage values.
A Dobson spokesman told the New York Times’ David Kirkpatrick Wednesday that he stood by that position, and as a matter of conscience could never vote for the Arizona Senator.
According to the paper, Dobson is joined by a slew of other prominent conservatives who oppose McCain on a number of issues:
Talk radio host Mark Levin urged visitors to the National Review’s Web site to “rally for Romney” to ward off a McCain win, saying: “Conservatives need to act now, before it is too late.”
Talker Rush Limbaugh told listeners on Thursday: “McCain is in a lot of these places not actually the Republican candidate. He is the candidate of enough Republicans, but [also] independents and moderates and probably even some liberals.”
Pat Toomey, president of the anti-tax organization Club for Growth, said in comments reported by the New York Times: “I have yet to see McCain make any attempts to reach out to free market conservatives.”
Conservatives fault McCain for voting against President Bush’s tax cuts and a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage, and for supporting embryonic stem cell research, looser immigration rules and stricter environmental regulations.
Conservatives were particularly irked when McCain made a deal with Democrats to break a deadlock on judicial nominations, according to the Times.
Anger over that compromise was rekindled this week when Wall Street Journal columnist John Fund wrote that McCain had privately criticized Bush’s Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito because “he wore his conservatism on his sleeve.” The McCain campaign denied that report.
Following McCain successes in early primary states, however, other conservatives are beginning to warm up to his campaign:
Americans for Tax Reform President Grover Norquist, who previously opposed a McCain nomination, said: “He has moved in the right direction strongly and forcefully on taxes.”
Former McCain foe Tony Perkins, a prominent Christian conservative, told the Times: “I have no residual issue with John McCain,” adding the candidate needed to “better communicate” his stand on social issues.
Richard Land, an official with the South Baptist Convention, agreed, noting that McCain “is strongly pro-life.” He said: “When I hear Rush Limbaugh say that a McCain nomination would destroy the Republican Party, what I want to say to Rush is, ‘You need to get out of the studio more and talk to real people.’”
because the most honest person
should’ve read because the most honest person I’ve ever experienced who communicated.....
Why, because he doesn’t and didn’t support Thompson? As far as I’m concerned, Thompson was automatically disqualified for being a member of the globalist entity the Council on Foreign Relations, the very entity which is pushing for a North American Union.
I respect Dr. Dobson a heap for steering people away from Thompson.
The crossover back to Christians between those groups is huge.
I'm very serious, if McCain wins in November with evangelicals, whether Fred-Heads, Romey-acs, Ditto Heads or anything else, sitting out then every RINO will know he or she now has a free reign to ignore Christians because they aren't needed to be elected.
The power that evangelical Christians have used effectively for many years would now be exposed as being perceived rather than real.
That faction is playing a very dangerous game.
I wouldn’t know. Not everyone who claims to be a prophet is a true prophet; not everyone who claims to be a Christian is a Christian; not everyone who claims they are called by God is called by God. All Christians know this.
You wrote, “I can make up my own mind, Dr. Dobson thankyouverymuch.”
Where did Dr. Dobson tell you how to vote? I think he was merely speaking for himself. Is he not free to do so?
I don't think most people would doubt Land's bonefides and his calling or Christianity.
I'm simply applying the same logic to Land as you did to Dobson. Neither of us know which man God chose to be His messenger in this case.
Politics is a dirty business. I think it’s ridiculous to try to boycott the candidates because they don’t live up to Biblical values. Of course they don’t. They wouldn’t be in politics to begin with if they did. Even Dobson, whom I respect, is going to have to get his hands dirty. Give to cesar what belongs to cesar.....Given the nominees, we’re all going to have to compromise. I wish Franklin Graham were running, but he isn’t.
If Dr. Dobson wasn’t attempting to influence people, then he wouldn’t have said anything.
That was a significant part of it, obviously. It was also the VITRIOL that he leveled against Thompson, the timing and especially his hostile innuendo that Fred wasn’t a Christian. Excuse me Doctor Dobson...just how do you purport to know that? Wouldm’t my similar accusation about you be fair play turnabout considering your behavior?
Dirty approach, sorta reminds me of John McCain actually.
As I say, I’m pretty much done with Dobson. Maybe he’ll do or say something to earn back some of my respect in the future but for now, IMO Doctor Dobson’s shoes have a lot of manure on them. Squarely placed there by his own steps.
And all I’m saying is God may indeed be telling one man something and not the other. People often don’t rightly listen to God. But I know one thing for certain: God would not be Who is causing the division in understanding. Jesus said a house divided cannot stand. So, obviously, someone is just “not understanding” or is not listening to HIS voice.
I also know that God does not support globalism or some kind of “new world order,” though this will come about. Nevertheless, that is of the devil.
Obviously he has followers and supporters who very much are influenced by his “opinions”. Tell you what. When ABCCBSNBSCNNFOX give me a platform to announce my “opinion” to the rest of the world....and you as well...I’ll let Dobson off the hook.
As is, he and his public remarks are fair game. But you knew that...
I haven’t talked with Dr. Dobson about why he stated what he said. However, if he is as concerned with Thompson’s wish for globalism upon mankind (and Thompson has stated he is for it), as much as I am, that certainly leads me to doubt Thompson’s Christianity, myself.
The difference is, you aren’t paid to broadcast those opinions on national TV.
Now that Dobson’s helped sew it up for McCain, are you thrilled? Think you’ll get less globalist policies from McCain?
Or, more likely...Hillary/Obama?
(no need to actually answer, rhetorical question)
Because Dobson said something you dislike or disagree with, you wish to remove his constitutionally protected right to free speech? Where does it end?
Honestly, you should send your scathing remarks to the GOP, where it belongs. They keep sending out the RINOs. It would be better for all if they only sent out the clowns.
You always be an “egg in a nest.”
Good call. Hillary may have the chance to nominate three Supreme Court justices who will support partial birth abortion, gay marriage, and the radical agenda. She will shut down talk radio and censor sites such as FR as hate speech. She will take money from corporations for the common good. Yes, Dr. Dobson, that would serve us well. Good call, indeed.
When those three new Hillary SCOTUS justices rule, they may rule on something like this.
Judges: ‘Gay’ Exposure OK for Kindergartners
World Net Daily ^ | 02/01/2008 | RTO
Posted on 02/01/2008 7:06:42 PM PST by RTO
In a case that could wind up in the U.S. Supreme Court, an appeals panel upheld dismissal of a lawsuit by Massachusetts parents seeking to prevent discussion of homosexual families in their children’s elementary school classrooms.
The 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals yesterday agreed with a judge’s decision last year that a school can expose children to contrary ideas without violating their parents’ rights to exercise religious beliefs.
Lynch reasoned that schools must accept the Massachusetts high court’s groundbreaking 2003 decision ruling “that the state constitution mandates the recognition of same-sex marriage.”
Who pushed shoved and rammmmmmed campaign finance reform through? Sure was NOT Hillary but she sure is the main benefactor. So WHAT makes you think McCain will see things differently?
Doug, Dobson is consistent. This is not a new position for him. He’s had low regard for McCain for years. If I recall correctly, McCain is on record despising Christian conservatives.
I don’t see it as a big deal. They have written each other off and left it at that.
I’m not defending McCain in the least. I don’t want him. But I am not going to sit home and let Satan’s Daughter in the White House without a fight. She is a danger to this republic second only to the Islamofascists, and as No. 2 she is trying harder.
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