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Commentary: Doing away with the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) (Replacing With The Fair Tax)
helium.com ^ | Ken Hoagland

Posted on 02/01/2008 12:06:25 PM PST by Man50D

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To: xcamel; Turret Gunner A20
Just like the Hillary machine... spending all your time accusing others of what you so enjoy doing...

Once again you do nothing but insult turret gunner and me. Are you going to answer the questions or are you just going to continue to disrupt?

81 posted on 02/01/2008 7:19:59 PM PST by groanup (Don't let the bastards get you down.)
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To: xcamel; Bigun; Man50D

Hit a homer, did I?

You know, and I know, and every poster on these threads knows that your “program” comes straight FRom Alinsky’s playbook.

Just as every poster on these threads knows that my one and only concern is FReedom for future generations of Americans.

If your real intention was to bequeath FReedom to future generations, you would be working as hard as the rest of us to eliminate the income tax and the IRS.

I don’t see you or any of your nattering nabobs of negativity FRiends working to do that.

Instead, all I see is hostility, negativity and some extremely bad manners.

The only conclusion I can come to is that you and others are in the employ of persons/organizations who/which have a huge vested interest in keeping the American people securely locked in the chains of IRS slavery.

Your children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren will be so proud of you!


82 posted on 02/01/2008 8:36:13 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Taxman; Bigun; groanup

We’re still waiting for those trick questions in post #62 to be answered.


83 posted on 02/01/2008 8:44:46 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Man50D

Don’t hold your breath!


84 posted on 02/02/2008 4:31:46 AM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Taxman
Try real hard not to drown in your massive vat of self delusion..
85 posted on 02/02/2008 5:29:46 AM PST by xcamel (Two-hand-voting now in play - One on lever, other holding nose.)
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To: xcamel

“To: Taxman
Right out of the Alinsky playbook... Don’t defend your position, personally attack your opponent...
24 posted on 02/01/2008 12:50:07 PM PST by xcamel”

“They really shouldn’t let people with screws lose to post on FR ... posted by xcamel”

Hard to believe that both of those posts were made by the same poster ....... do we have more than one person posting under the same username? Or just a case of gross and blatant hypocracy?

Hmmmmmmm .... inquiring minds want to know.


86 posted on 02/02/2008 5:43:18 AM PST by phil_will1 (My posts are in no way limited or restricted by previously expressed SQL opinions)
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To: xcamel

Knock off the personal attacks and instead discuss the topic.


89 posted on 02/02/2008 6:03:14 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Turret Gunner A20

This cross-thread flamewar ends now - on both sides.


90 posted on 02/02/2008 6:11:24 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Turret Gunner A20
Apparently you don't know. There is nothing in the passage of the Fairtax bill that compels any other actions not included in the bill and that includes repealing the 16th...
Furthermore, the sponsors of the FairTax are totally dedicated to the permanent repeal of the income tax. :b">u>No current supporter of the FairTax would support the FairTax unless the entire income tax is repealed. There is a separate bill, HJR 16, which repeals the 16th Amendment to the Constitution but it must go through a different adoption process than HR 25. HJR 16 has to be passed by a two-thirds vote of members of both the House and the Senate and be approved (or ratified) by three-fourths of state legislatures (38). We are currently laying the organizational groundwork for this push and have already started the educational process at the state level.
What part of "compel" and "seperate bill" and "it must go through a different adoption process" do you people not understand?

Who is your spokesperson that speaks for all Fairtax supporters? That's yet another meaningless paragraph from who knows (or cares) where unless you can show the legislative language that compels any other actions.

You clowns can't even get your bill to committee and we're supposed to beleive you can make yet another bill come to pass...

You pile on one lie after another with endless arrays of misinformation, promising outcomes based on suppositions you have no control over and the only thing done is book after book of more lies, suppositions and misinformation.

Like I;ve said before. If you Fairtaxers want to know why you aren't getting anywhere, look in a mirror.

91 posted on 02/02/2008 8:32:54 AM PST by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movemractent have in common? Disinformation)
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To: xcamel
Try real hard not to drown in your massive vat of self delusion.. Try real hard to answer the questions.
92 posted on 02/02/2008 9:14:25 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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To: phil_will1
Hard to believe that both of those posts were made by the same poster ....... do we have more than one person posting under the same username? Or just a case of gross and blatant hypocracy?

Don't mind him -- it's just the early stages of insanity -- talking to oneself.

93 posted on 02/02/2008 9:16:49 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Turret Gunner A20; Sidebar Moderator
Same old, same old. At least you trolls could try to get the facts straight. But, it's obviously so much easier to stay stipid and lie about things you know nothing about (and are too lazy to study up on).

How p[athetic.

You might at least coming up with a new lie once in a while -- you've gotten boring as hell.

Even though I was pinged prior, I have no posts on this thread up to you pinging me here...

Are you trying to pick fights? Given the off topic wording of this entire post aside from the unsolicited name calling, isn't this taunting?

94 posted on 02/02/2008 9:18:21 AM PST by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movemractent have in common? Disinformation)
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To: Sidebar Moderator
This cross-thread flamewar ends now - on both sides.

Fine with me -- until the other side starts it again. I hope you don't expect me to stand still for a bunch of guff from the other side.

95 posted on 02/02/2008 9:20:00 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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To: lewislynn

Your post was on topic. However, please leave out ‘clowns’ and other such flame-bait next time. Capice?


96 posted on 02/02/2008 10:52:16 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Turret Gunner A20
Fine with me -- until the other side starts it again. I hope you don't expect me to stand still for a bunch of guff from the other side.

If the other side flames, just mash abuse. We'll take care of it.

This has gotten out of hand. So we're trying to get it back within FR guidelines. And FWIW, I don't have a dog in either hunt.

97 posted on 02/02/2008 10:53:30 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: groanup
1. Why do you feel that maintaining the income tax is better for America than adopting the FairTax?
Maintaining the income tax are your words. Other than in you own mind, where did anyone commit to maintaining the income tax?
2. What are the main drawbacks of the FairTax? You have only pointed out the the income tax is the "devil we know".
You mean besides it doesn't exist and has never been tried? If your answer is there are 45 states that have sales taxes that work great, why doesn't the Fairtax even remotely resemble ONE of them?
3. 75 economists have written and signed a letter to the President and Congress endorsing the FairTax. What economists have lined up against it?
All the rest...

What's to be against yet? It's a non-starter that doesn't exist and would be a total waste of time at this point....Unless of course there's some money or other compensation in it for them.

You choose to let economists guide your way...I'm not impressed by their profession or their predictions...You are, so be it.

98 posted on 02/02/2008 11:20:18 AM PST by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movemractent have in common? Disinformation)
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To: longtermmemmory

The 16th Amendment stays only until we get it repealed. That is the next step. I’ll write more later on this subject.


99 posted on 02/02/2008 11:20:48 AM PST by DivaDelMar (CRAm member-- (Conservative Republicans Against mcCain) Think you're entitled to my vote? CRAm It!!!)
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This has gotten out of hand. So we're trying to get it back within FR guidelines.

Thanks.

100 posted on 02/02/2008 11:20:56 AM PST by groanup (Don't let the bastards get you down.)
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