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Commentary: Doing away with the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) (Replacing With The Fair Tax)
helium.com ^ | Ken Hoagland

Posted on 02/01/2008 12:06:25 PM PST by Man50D

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To: xcamel
You post funny pictures. Is there anything you want to say? How about answering some of those questions you have been asked over the last 8 months?

1. Why do you feel that maintaining the income tax is better for America than adopting the FairTax?

2. What are the main drawbacks of the FairTax? You have only pointed out the the income tax is the "devil we know".

3. 75 economists have written and signed a letter to the President and Congress endorsing the FairTax. What economists have lined up against it?

62 posted on 02/01/2008 3:41:10 PM PST by groanup (Don't let the bastards get you down.)
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To: xcamel
Let me guess. You haven't been given a script for today so all you have in your quiver are insults and lies. Wait. That's all you ever have.

Hey x, when are you going to debate the merits of your argument? The only think anyone knows is that you despise the FairTax, think the income tax is workable and you can post funny pictures and endless juvenile insults.

63 posted on 02/01/2008 3:47:09 PM PST by groanup (Don't let the bastards get you down.)
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To: xcamel
To a penny stock pimp I guess another lie is “no big deal”

That is really getting old. I won't stoop to where I could go. I'm better than you that way.

64 posted on 02/01/2008 3:49:05 PM PST by groanup (Don't let the bastards get you down.)
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To: groanup
You trying to channel Hostage now, or just acting like that dime-store fortune reader?

Oh.. I know... a thread disruptor... That’s it..

65 posted on 02/01/2008 3:53:44 PM PST by xcamel (Two-hand-voting now in play - One on lever, other holding nose.)
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To: groanup

Yes you would.. and in spades too.


66 posted on 02/01/2008 4:02:43 PM PST by xcamel (Two-hand-voting now in play - One on lever, other holding nose.)
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To: aimhigh
Even a fair tax has to have someone to collect it, which means the IRS remains.

You obviously haven't read The Fair Tax Act bill. It will abolish the IRS by defunding the agency. Per the bill:

SEC. 301. PHASE-OUT OF ADMINISTRATION OF REPEALED FEDERAL TAXES.

(a) Appropriations- Appropriations for any expenses of the Internal Revenue Service including processing tax returns for years prior to the repeal of the taxes repealed by title I of this Act, revenue accounting, management, transfer of payroll and wage data to the Social Security Administration for years after fiscal year 2011 shall not be authorized.

The existing Treasury Department will be the tax collecting authority. Per the bill:

c) Conforming Amendments- Section 7802 is amended--

(1) by striking subsections (a) and (b) and by redesignating subsections (c) and (d) as subsections (a) and (b),

(2) by striking `Internal Revenue Service' each place it appears and inserting `Department of the Treasury', and

(3) by striking `Commissioner' or `Commissioner of Internal Revenue' each place they appear and inserting `Secretary'.
67 posted on 02/01/2008 4:07:06 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: aimhigh; Man50D

Meet the new boss, worse than the old boss..


69 posted on 02/01/2008 4:18:09 PM PST by xcamel (Two-hand-voting now in play - One on lever, other holding nose.)
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To: groanup

You’re better than that little pimp in every way — and so is everybody else who is decent, straight, and knows the difference between lies and the truth.


70 posted on 02/01/2008 4:19:28 PM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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To: xcamel

Questions for you in post #62. Or are you just disrupting?


71 posted on 02/01/2008 4:28:20 PM PST by groanup (Don't let the bastards get you down.)
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To: lewislynn
Apparently you don't know. There is nothing in the passage of the Fairtax bill that compels any other actions not included in the bill and that includes repealing the 16th...

And, despite you huge research efforts at finding out wht the hell you are talking about, you apparently haven't heard or read about this:

Furthermore, the sponsors of the FairTax are totally dedicated to the permanent repeal of the income tax. :b">u>No current supporter of the FairTax would support the FairTax unless the entire income tax is repealed. There is a separate bill, HJR 16, which repeals the 16th Amendment to the Constitution but it must go through a different adoption process than HR 25. HJR 16 has to be passed by a two-thirds vote of members of both the House and the Senate and be approved (or ratified) by three-fourths of state legislatures (38). We are currently laying the organizational groundwork for this push and have already started the educational process at the state level.

But then, that's not surprising, is it -- particularly in view of the fact that you just don't give a damn about the REAL facts anyhow?

72 posted on 02/01/2008 4:31:05 PM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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To: groanup

Just like the Hillary machine... spending all your time accusing others of what you so enjoy doing...


73 posted on 02/01/2008 4:32:29 PM PST by xcamel (Two-hand-voting now in play - One on lever, other holding nose.)
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To: xcamel

Come on, fourflusher, how about answers to the questions in # 62, that everyone has been asking you for months now — and not a single one of which you can answer?


74 posted on 02/01/2008 4:37:02 PM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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To: lewislynn

Thank you very much for your reply.


79 posted on 02/01/2008 5:28:09 PM PST by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: DivaDelMar
Why do you think the American public will tolerate an income tax after they've tasted the freedom of the Fair Tax?

Once upon a time, there was no IRS and the people tolerated the creation of the IRS nd the income tax.

It just might turn out that the FairTax is worse than what we have now, and people will long for the good old days of a tax on income.

80 posted on 02/01/2008 6:05:23 PM PST by lucysmom
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