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To: Philly Nomad
There’s a difference between a Republican and a Conservative. McCain is a Conservative. GWB is a republican.

While I agree with your initial premise here, I don't see either Bush or McCain as a true conservative.

All throughout freerepublic posters cry out for a Republican in the mold of Ronald Reagan. And we have that person in the name of John McCain.

I believe that what you have been reading is a crying out for a Conservative in the mold of Ronald Reagan.

While McCain doesn’t agree with today’s GOP Base, he matches up quite well with Ronald Reagan.

Ronald Reagan was an honorable man.  John simply doesn't qualify after the Keeting Five fiasco.  John does match up quite well with the Republican leadership today.  And it was that leadership that wasn't impressed with Reagan at all.  As for the base, if it is accepted that it is Conservative, there is a reason for him not agreeing with them.  He is not a Conservative.

To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, “I didn’t leave the republican party, the republican party left me.”

The actual phrase was this.  "I didn't leave the democrat party, the democrat party left me."

Reagan had been a long time democrat in the days when Kennedy was king.  Then along came McGovern and Carter.

58 posted on 02/01/2008 10:52:00 AM PST by DoughtyOne (PARTY WANTED: Full Time, Cons exp a must. Refs 20 yrs. No Amnesty sptrs. 1 vote per 4 yrs negotiable)
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To: DoughtyOne
I don't see either Bush or McCain as a true conservative.

Fair enough. He's not a movement Conservative. I'm Arizona libertarian/conservative and McCain in Nixon Conservative. We have fought and hissed at each other for 25 years.

Here is McCain's VOTING RECORD

It is not what I prefer but it is a logical progression from the man who holds Barry Goldwater's Senate seat. Strong to moderate conservative.

Then we hit the boutique issues. The are the issues that run through the public psyche at intervals. Sometimes promoted by the press and sometimes "instant, whitehot, wild" from the grassroots. These are where McCain departs from conservative orthodoxy. AWB, CFR, Border Control, Global Warming, Gang of 14.

Remember that McCain does hold Goldwater's seat and that he takes it VERY seriously. He wants to be great like Goldwater or Hayden or Undall but he doesn't quite know how. He tries by attempting to resolve the important issues of the day by compromise.

I sense that there may be greatness in that, in and of itself. A self-governing people have a right to be wrong. Whether it is prohibition or silver at 16 to 1 or Global Warming or any other of a myriad of issues if the desire is strong enough it will be sated. We can make our case and warn and cajole but in the end we cannot stand athwart history yelling STOP!

I am looking beyond a McCain Presidency and trying to discern what the shape of the future will be and how we can shape that future to our ends. What if the next Reagan is a sunken-chest little pipsqueak? Will the ideas be strong enough to carry the country. How can we adjust to reality? We live in a dynamic society and we have to realize that things are happening fast. We can take advantage of that or we can be overrun by it.

63 posted on 02/01/2008 11:45:16 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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