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Working students need help from government
News and Record ^ | 2/1/08 | Stacie Hazelwood

Posted on 02/01/2008 4:12:08 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0

Adult working students are not given a fair chance at an education. The majority of adult students attending college work full time and many have children and family obligations. As a working student, I have only been offered financial aid in the form of student loans, which require repayment. Ten percent of UNCG's student enrollment is adult students.

Throughout my college career, I have come in contact with students privileged enough to not need to work while attending school. Most, however, do not and will not have that opportunity. I have also noticed that certain minorities often get offered financial aid that doesn't require repayment. This seems unfair to non-minorities.

If the government would offer more funding to students, there would be more adults attending college. It appears that those of us who do not fall into one of the previously mentioned categories are forced to work full time while incurring debt in order to support ourselves through college .

Our legislators should take a hard look at students who put themselves through school and how much debt they incur while doing so.

Stacie Hazelwood Greensboro


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KEYWORDS: entitlement; givetome
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From my local Newspaper LTTE. Pathetic is my first thought. The first two responses to the letter mirror my thoughts in a more constructive manner:

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This letter is absolutely astounding in it's revelation of our contemporary generation of college students. I read it in the print N&R at the kitchen table and nearly dropped my cereal on the floor.

"As a working student, I have only been offered financial aid in the form of student loans, which require repayment."

Yep...uh huh....that would be the definition of a loan. You borrow money and then pay it back. Imagine that.

Let me get this straight Stacie, the govt. is supposed to give everyone free money for their college education? Where does this money come from? How about your food, transportation, shelter, books, clothing and other needs during your education. Since you don't want to be "forced to work full time" perhaps the govt. should offer these free as well. That way you can focus only on your education.

Our American experiment has failed as Neo mentioned earlier. People want the school system to tell them when to drive or not, now Stacie here is repulsed by the idea of borrowing money for her education and actually paying it back."

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"Our legislators should take a hard look at students who put themselves through school and how much debt they incur while doing so."

How about our legislators taking a "hard look" at my power bill, my grocery bill, and while they're at it, I'd like to upgrade my satellite system. Oh, and I still want that new Tahoe, but every time I approach a salesperson about it, they always come up with these annoying 'loan contracts'... expecting me to sign them. What's up with that?

Stacie, it's victims like you that created the welfare state which has bankrupted the country."

1 posted on 02/01/2008 4:12:09 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

I worked my way thru school. I agree with the person however, I think somebody studying engineering while living below the poverty level(as was my case) deserves the govt. assistence more than a pregneant teenager. Maybe loans are OK but I see his point.


2 posted on 02/01/2008 4:17:14 AM PST by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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Basically the government has done to college with cheap student loans what mortgage lenders did to the housing market.

Since any moron can get low interest loans from the gummit it encourages colleges to jack up their tuition since the gummit is giving them free money anyway.

Stacie has a point, but she's also forgotten about another alternative, community college, much cheaper per credit and better teaching.
3 posted on 02/01/2008 4:20:28 AM PST by ketsu
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Hey Stacie,

I joined the military, saved as much as I could, and then when I went back to school, I borrowed what I had to, and am still paying it back a decade later. Also, I delayed getting married and having kids until I had finished my degree, because I knew I couldn’t support a family as a student.

Go to Wal-Mart, buy the biggest straw they have and SUCK IT UP.


4 posted on 02/01/2008 4:21:35 AM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Stacie’s mom was busy with the lawn boy.


5 posted on 02/01/2008 4:22:50 AM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Let me point out that the college student who works full time while going to school, has developed a work ethic that any employer would want.

A students who expects the government to pay for their education with grants become teachers and joins the NEA.

.....Bob


6 posted on 02/01/2008 4:23:14 AM PST by Lokibob (Some people are like slinkys. Useless, but if you throw them down the stairs, you smile.)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Free education for adults?
Dude! Where’s my food?
Food is a NECESSITY. Keeps me out of the hospital. I have a right to eat, and I feel right passionate about that.
Why should I be penalized for living in a state where I can’t grow vegetables year-round? And them Texans hoarding all the beef, it’s unfair I tell ya! Share! Redistribute! Feed me feed me FEED ME!


7 posted on 02/01/2008 4:28:32 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( Voting for Fred anyway. Won't settle for less.)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Ditto!!


8 posted on 02/01/2008 4:30:57 AM PST by DooDahhhh (AMEN)
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The Gov has helped and helped and helped. As a direct result the tuition costs of colleges have exploded. Why? Because they can. We poured tons of money into the student loan trough and “corporate colleges” have continued to raise tuition to suck up the tax dollars. Oink oink professor. It’s no wonder professor “on-the-dole” is going to vote for Obama.


9 posted on 02/01/2008 4:31:52 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

My gut reaction to poor little Stacie is not very sympathetic, because I worked like a dog every summer to make tuition for the next year. I needed a student loan for only one semester, and I paid it off early once I started woking, just to be rid of it.

However,the way expenses have shot through the roof, is it still possible to do it that way? My buddy at work was griping about a single textbook for his son costing over $150. I remember paying $20 or $30.


10 posted on 02/01/2008 4:32:51 AM PST by Rockhound
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“...it encourages colleges to jack up their tuition...”

Yes, it does. I want somebody to chart the increase in gas prices from 1958 to 2008 against the increase in college tuition for the same period. There’s a lot of money being made here, and no accountability for it. Don’t be fooled by “non-profit” labels. There’s plenty being made, and it’s being made off of you and me, while they do all they can to advance the Socialist cause.


11 posted on 02/01/2008 4:40:06 AM PST by Humble Servant (Keep it simple - do what's right.)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

They have the same chance everybody else does. They need to quit whining because they are not “privileged”.


12 posted on 02/01/2008 4:43:17 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
Adult working students are not given a fair chance at an education.

This is why our mothers tell us to stay in school, right through college. If these folks would pay attention to those who rear them, life would be so much better. But, NO! The young ones are always smarter than thier advisors.

13 posted on 02/01/2008 4:43:58 AM PST by GingisK
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To: Lokibob

Hey now, I was forced to join the NEA. In Ohio, it is required. However, my middle class, non-college educated parents did pay for my brother and I to go through Akron U. I did have a small athletic scholarship because I was on the Rifle Team, but they paid for all of it. Does that make me priveleged?


14 posted on 02/01/2008 4:45:39 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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We have a teacher at our school complaining about her 30 year old son not getting any of the tax rebates. He went to college out of high school and got a degree in theater arts. Unfortunately, there is not much you can do with that degree in the Ohio Valley. To top things off, he knocked up some girl his senior year, and now has to pay child support. Now, he does not know how he can pay child support because he is going back to school to get his teaching degree. Idiots!
15 posted on 02/01/2008 4:48:37 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

While I agree with the minority thing, Stacie needs to grow up and quit whining.


16 posted on 02/01/2008 4:49:30 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Humble Servant
Yes, it does. I want somebody to chart the increase in gas prices from 1958 to 2008 against the increase in college tuition for the same period. There’s a lot of money being made here, and no accountability for it. Don’t be fooled by “non-profit” labels. There’s plenty being made, and it’s being made off of you and me, while they do all they can to advance the Socialist cause.
Meh... basically a college can never have too much money. The more endowment you have the bigger buildings you can make, the more research crap you can buy... this attracts better students, better faculty etc...

I don't begrudge colleges their goals, just the gummit for having such a bad grasp of economics(or a perverse willingness to hose poor schlubs because they don't have the lobbyists a state U does).
17 posted on 02/01/2008 4:50:01 AM PST by ketsu
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To: goodwithagun
Idiots!

Oh, I see what you mean. You and I recieved good advice from our parents. It is not natural to consider the alternative.

18 posted on 02/01/2008 4:51:22 AM PST by GingisK
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

I wish all these folks would sh*tcan their entitlement mentalities. I worked my way through school and I would have eaten my foot before I took government assistance.


19 posted on 02/01/2008 4:52:35 AM PST by dinodino
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"Since any moron can get low interest loans medicare or medicaid from the gummit it encourages colleges doctors and hospitals to jack up their tuition prices since the gummit is giving them free money anyway."

I'm just sayin'...

20 posted on 02/01/2008 4:56:36 AM PST by Ignatz (Silence is golden...duct tape is silver.)
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