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Bill would order checks for buyers at gun shows (courtesy of Sen. Frank R. Lautenberg)
northjersey.com ^ | January 31, 2008 | Herb Jackson

Posted on 01/31/2008 12:15:00 PM PST by neverdem

People who buy guns at gun shows would have to undergo the same background checks as those who buy them at gun stores under a bill introduced Wednesday by Sen. Frank R. Lautenberg.

"It defies common sense that a loophole in federal law lets unlicensed dealers sell firearms at gun shows without running a background check on the buyer," Lautenberg, D-N.J., said at a Capitol news conference where a victim and several relatives of victims of the deadly shootings at Virginia Tech last year also spoke.

The shooter in that case, who had been treated for mental illness, did not buy at a gun show, but the victims and families have been pressing for stronger gun laws overall.

"If there's a way for a person to get a gun without a background check, then how can any background checks work?" said Andy Goddard, whose son was shot while in a French class.

Lautenberg sponsored a similar bill in 1999 that barely passed the Senate but died later in the legislative process. He said he believed the Virginia Tech killings should highlight the need for ensuring all gun purchasers are screened.

"It's a matter of urgency," Lautenberg said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; bang; banglist; guns; lautenberg; secondamendment
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IIRC, McCain agree's with back from the crypt Lautenberg, i.e. no more private sales.

Court has your Second Amendment rights directly in its cross hairs

1 posted on 01/31/2008 12:15:02 PM PST by neverdem
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To: Coleus; jocon307; Alberta's Child; Pharmboy; Calpernia; Malsua; dead; nj26; OldFriend; Clemenza; ...
BANG! The grabbers are starting to come out of the woodwork.
2 posted on 01/31/2008 12:18:14 PM PST by neverdem (I have to hope for a brokered GOP Convention. It can't get any worse.)
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To: neverdem
The shooter in that case, who had been treated for mental illness, did not buy at a gun show

The current laws don't seem to be working where they're already implemented, so let's implement them everywhere... /sarc

3 posted on 01/31/2008 12:19:46 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: neverdem

I assume he means checks to see if those attending are legal residents of the United States.


4 posted on 01/31/2008 12:19:48 PM PST by Steely Tom (Steely's First Law of the Main Stream Media: if it doesn't advance the agenda, it's not news.)
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To: neverdem

Simple solution, if somebody’s too messed up to own or handle firearms, keep him locked up. That worked all during the 1800s.


5 posted on 01/31/2008 12:21:24 PM PST by jeddavis
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To: neverdem

Which reminds me, I need to buy some rope.


6 posted on 01/31/2008 12:21:25 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Islam is a mental disorder)
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To: neverdem

I’ve been to many gun shows and whenever I’ve purchased a gun there, I had to go through the whole process including the two week waiting period. The only time it wasn’t required was in the case of purchasing an “antique” gun— I think it had to be manufactured 50 years prior. That one I could walk away with.


7 posted on 01/31/2008 12:21:35 PM PST by agooga (Struggling every day to be worthy of their sacrifice.)
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To: neverdem
a loophole in federal law lets unlicensed dealers private individuals sell firearms at gun shows

Fixed it!

8 posted on 01/31/2008 12:22:33 PM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: neverdem

...and I’m sure the FBI’s NICS system will be up and running smoothly for every weekend gun show in America and not experience any I/T “outages” or “downtime” as happened regularly during the Clinton years.


9 posted on 01/31/2008 12:24:01 PM PST by Towed_Jumper (Stephen Hopkins: Founding Father who had Cerebral Palsy.."My hand trembles, my heart does not.")
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To: agooga
I had to go through the whole process

Many states already require this; yours is probably one. The absurdity of it becomes very clear when you realize you can't even exchange/inherit guns among family without a background check.

10 posted on 01/31/2008 12:26:37 PM PST by LambSlave
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To: neverdem

So let me get this straight. A private citizen will not be allowed to sell a firearm at a gunshow without running a background check, but they and their potential customer can simply step outside of the auditorium where the gunshow is taking place and still do the transaction without a background check?

Yeah sure, that makes sense (???).

After they fix this “loophole” they’ll go after the dealers. Loutenberg simply wants to ban gun shows but he knows he hasn’t got the votes to do it all at once.


11 posted on 01/31/2008 12:27:02 PM PST by Hazwaste
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To: 6ppc

The shows I’ve been to don’t seem to allow non-licensed private individuals to sell— I am not 100% clear on the rules. It’s California. But all the non-antique guns I’ve purchased from multiple sellers were put through the system.


12 posted on 01/31/2008 12:28:22 PM PST by agooga (Struggling every day to be worthy of their sacrifice.)
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and I’m sure the FBI’s NICS system will be up and running smoothly for every weekend gun show in America and not experience any I/T “outages” or “downtime” as happened regularly during the Clinton years.

IIRC, the federal law states that if this should happen the dealer may proceed with the sale without penalty. I know in my state, under misinformation from the rumor mill/state police, dealers will not do this because they believe they will lose their license, but I'm sure that the original version of the law included this provision to ensure that the "our computers are down" excuse couldn't be invoked to create a de facto ban on all gun sales.

13 posted on 01/31/2008 12:31:13 PM PST by LambSlave
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To: neverdem

Wow, I thought Lautenberg was embalmed. I guess nothing will get a dead politician moving like a good ole gun banning bill.


14 posted on 01/31/2008 12:33:40 PM PST by Malsua
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To: neverdem

Thia asshole is senile .It is time for him to go to pasture .


15 posted on 01/31/2008 12:33:43 PM PST by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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To: neverdem

Rules are the same at gunshows. The Sen was senile decades ago.


16 posted on 01/31/2008 12:36:24 PM PST by RightWhale (oil--the world currency)
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To: Malsua

Holy crap. I thought he was dead, too. Maybe he and Greenspan should go play some pinochle in the old folks home and leave the rest of us alone.


17 posted on 01/31/2008 12:36:55 PM PST by GnL
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To: Steely Tom
I assume he means checks to see if those attending are legal residents of the United States.

Makes sense.

18 posted on 01/31/2008 12:38:12 PM PST by Churchillspirit
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To: neverdem
First, Lautenberg is one of those New Jersey corrupt politicians who really does feel a pressing personal need for all the rest of us to be disarmed.

Secondly, he's delusional.

If the pukes in Congress would give up their Capitol police, Secret Service and other body guards, they might have some moral stature to discuss this issue. Alas they're not going to give up their right of self-defense, so there's no sense in our allowing them to take away our right.

19 posted on 01/31/2008 12:40:17 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: neverdem

I’ve bought several guns at gun shows and have never been given the firearm without a background check - and I live in Utah. WTF are these people talking about?


20 posted on 01/31/2008 12:42:02 PM PST by SwankyC
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