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Bill: "We Just Have to Slow Down Our Economy" to Fight Global Warming
ABC ^ | 1/31/08 | Jake Tapper

Posted on 01/31/2008 7:02:48 AM PST by xtinct

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B.L. Zebubba running at the mouth again..
41 posted on 01/31/2008 7:33:23 AM PST by xcamel (Two-hand-voting now in play - One on lever, other holding nose.)
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To: xtinct

Gee, considering their own conspicuous consumption, I don’t see the Toons practicing what they preach...


42 posted on 01/31/2008 7:33:33 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: All

http://www.conservativerepublicans.com/

ConservativeRepublicans.com Promises to Back Clinton if McCain Becomes the GOP Nominee
Published 01/31/2008 - 10:38 a.m
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(PressMediaWire) - Today ConservativeRepublicans.com announced its provisional support for the Clinton campaign, should John McCain win the Republican nomination.

“I’ve always thought I was loyal to the Republican party, but this whole mess has made me realize I am loyal first to Republican principles and to the integrity of the Republican party,” says Jed Merrill, who manages a network of over fifty major political websites including TexasRepublicans.com.

“By voting for McCain we are sacrificing the Republican soul. The conservative side of the party is based not so much on a political platform as a moral bond of integrity, and having reviewed McCain’s record, it is clear that John McCain not only does not share our values but would fight against them,” says Merrill.

Other prominent conservatives have made similar judgments, including Paul Weyrich, founder of National Right to Life, who on Monday said of McCain, “I will not vote for him. I can’t. It’s a case where worse would be better. If [Hillary is elected], she’ll do enough damage that two years from now we can recover politically if they don’t shut us down. I think after two years of her that there’ll be a real reaction—just like there was with Carter and there was a big one with [Bill] Clinton. It would be better than McCain, who would fight us on everything.”

[Source: http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/080128 Italics added.]

Merrill calls John McCain an honorary Democrat who John Kerry was willing to take a political risk on as Vice President in 2004. “What would have happened if Kerry was incapacitated or killed, like JFK? If McCain was not a Democrat in principle, I would think the Democrats would have backlashed against the Kerry/McCain ticket suggestion. They didn’t.”

Jed, together with the network of sites he manages, excluding more recently acquired ConservativeRepublicans.com, was a big backer of President Bush in the 2004 election, controversially pointing Democrat websites such as VermontDemocrats.com and CaliforniaDemocrats.com to the Bush homepage.

Jed is a Veteran of the Iraq war, credited with intelligence work that led to the capture of Saddam’s chief bomb maker. (Jed was Database Manager for the Iraq Survey Group from July of 2003 to early 2004.)

Jed is also an entrepreneur and an investor. Currently Jed backs Mitt Romney for President as “the only Republican with a credible chance at restoring the Reagan coalition of social, economic, and national defense conservatives.”

Jed pins Romney’s loss in Florida to Florida Governor Crist’s “selfish act”, trading the Florida and American economies for a potential position in the McCain administration. He also wished former Florida Governor Jeb Bush, who is rumored to quietly support Romney and is popular with Floridians, had stepped up for Romney in opposition to Crist. Jed quotes British statesman Edmund Burke, who said, “All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing.”

Jed also accuses McCain of campaigning on fear tactics, such as claiming only he can beat Hillary in a General Election. “Many said the same thing about Giuliani six months ago, and where is he?” McCain also suggests that “more wars” are imminent, as reported by the Huffington Post, another “fear tactic” according to Jed.

[Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/27/mccain-warns-there-will_n_83459.html ]

“McCain is a politician, not a leader,” says Jed. “He has never led America into anything but compromise. We should be asking ourselves, what can McCain do for America, since McCain is so busy wondering what America can do for him.”

Short answer: “He doesn’t know the first thing about how to help America. McCain has no experience with the economy, no plan for health care, and has gained much of his influence as a politician from acting the part of a victim, not a builder.”

Jed uses the word “victim” to reference McCain’s five years as a POW in Vietnam and also McCain positioning himself as victim of so-called “attack” ads by Romney in New Hampshire, ads that Romney countered were a fair and modest contrast of their records on taxes and immigration, and not personal.

“Let McCain run for President of Iraq. He has a 100 year plan for that country.”

As for Republican power, Jed says, “If we don’t have our integrity, we have no more right to power than the Democrats. Let Hillary win. We can recover from attacks from the outside, but McCain will eat us from within.”

http://pressmediawire.com/article.cfm?articleID=5087


43 posted on 01/31/2008 7:35:25 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Hispanics for amnesty , old folks, Libs, were key to McCain's victory in Florida)
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To: Hacklehead

Exactly. Looks to me like their polling has determined that if the economy doesn’t take a nosedive and soon, Shrillary’s chances are in the dumper. And it’s not slowing fast enough... plus it seems this is a pretty mild slowdown. So let’s egg ‘em on, right Bil? What a ****.


44 posted on 01/31/2008 7:36:02 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

This kind of talk leaves the Clintons wide open for criticism. Global warming is not new, was talked about a lot while Clinton and Al Gore were in office. They expended no effort on behalf of the Kyoto Protocol of 1997 on this very subject. Why, when they had a chance to do something, did they choose not to? If this is really the greatest issue facing mankind, why was nothing done when they were in office before?


45 posted on 01/31/2008 7:36:27 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: reagan_fanatic; xtinct; Poison Pill

ROTFLMAO!


46 posted on 01/31/2008 7:38:01 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Well... We did limit the amount of water that was consumed in a single flush durring the Clinton/Algore administration.


47 posted on 01/31/2008 7:42:25 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: khnyny

We won’t even force China to stop its staggering pollution. The only economy these people want to choke is our own.


48 posted on 01/31/2008 7:46:44 AM PST by Sender (I've been chicken franchised.)
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To: xtinct

Global Warming: “It’s the economy stupid.”

Paraphrase Bill Clinton: “My mother always told me I shouldn’t speak after 7:00 PM because I’m just too tired”.


49 posted on 01/31/2008 7:48:13 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: xtinct
Al Gore's America.


50 posted on 01/31/2008 7:49:37 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: SE Mom

Someone on our side really needs to start talking about the massive hurt these kinds of attitudes and actions are going to put on people.


51 posted on 01/31/2008 7:51:31 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: Sender

Of course. The whole global warming rhetoric is just nice liberal sound bites designed to feed the hate America crowd. China is the worst polluter on the planet. The situation in China is horrific and is affecting the entire planet, but this truth is studiously ignored by most of the left.


52 posted on 01/31/2008 7:55:15 AM PST by khnyny (MSM IS BUSY Propping Up "Weekend at Bernie's" John McCain)
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To: xtinct

Let the Anti-Industrial revolution begin


53 posted on 01/31/2008 7:58:50 AM PST by The Louiswu (Never Forget!)
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To: xtinct; oldglory; MinuteGal; mcmuffin; gonzo; seekthetruth; sheikdetailfeather

Bill Clinton’s “we must slow down our economy in order to fight global warming” solutions are the same as McCain/Lieberman’s solutions:

Senator Inhofe Exposes Costly Global Warming ‘Solutions’ [of the Lieberman-McCain bill ]
October 26, 2007
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=de8b6989-802a-23ad-4788-fb4fa9b0217a

[...]

“...The estimated costs to comply with carbon legislative proposals in the U.S. would also be unreasonable. The NCEP approach would do nothing to lessen global warming even according to the alarmists, but according to EIA, it would still cost more than 118,000 American jobs simply to make a symbolic gesture.

And according to an MIT study, the Sanders-Boxer bill would cost energy sector consumers an amount equal to $4,500 per American family of four. The same study found the Lieberman-McCain bill would cost consumers $3,500 per family of four. Similarly, EIA found that it would have cost 1.3 million jobs. A new EPA analysis shows the Lieberman - McCain bill would cost up to half a trillion dollars by 2030 and $1.3 trillion by 2050.

Now environmentalists will tell you that’s okay. Dan Lashof of the Natural Resources Defense Council says that EPA’s analysis of the Lieberman-McCain bill show “it is affordable.” Although EPA finds that fuel will increase by 22 percent, he calls fuel impacts “pretty modest” - Now activists inside the Beltway may think big jumps in gas prices are no big deal, but I doubt the people living in the real America would agree.

THE POOR BEAR THE BIGGEST COSTS

What few Americans realize is that the impact of these policies would not be evenly distributed. The Congressional Budget Office recently looked at the approach taken by most global warming proposals in Congress - known as cap and trade - that would place a cap on carbon emissions, allocate how much everyone could emit, and then let them trade those emissions. Let me quote from the CBO report:

“Regardless of how the allowances were distributed, most of the cost of meeting a cap on CO2 emissions would be borne by consumers, who would face persistently higher prices for products such as electricity and gasoline. Those price increases would be regressive in that poorer households would bear a larger burden relative to their income than wealthier households would.”

Think about that. Even relatively modest bills would put enormous burdens on the poor.

The poor already face energy costs much higher as a percentage of their income than wealthier Americans. While most Americans spend about 4 percent of their monthly budget on heating their homes or other energy needs, the poorest fifth of Americans spend 19 percent of their budget on energy. Why would we adopt policies which disproportionately force the poor and working class to shoulder the heaviest burdens through even higher energy costs?”


54 posted on 01/31/2008 8:04:28 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Hispanics for amnesty , old folks, Libs, were key to McCain's victory in Florida)
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To: khnyny

The only question you need to ask Bill...or Al...or any global warmer...”What is the perfect carbon number?”

That question drops the floor out from underneath the rest of the discussion. Once they hear that....its a double-dose of reality...because you actually want them to describe perfect carbon...which doesn’t exist.

The number that we need to achieve in their mind....doesn’t exist.

The number that would save us from global destruction....doesn’t exist.

The Cray computer that would figure this perfect carbon number....doesn’t exist.

The Kyoto Treaty that would announce or describe the perfect carbon number....doesn’t exist.

This is the only bit of wisdom and intelligence that you need to display...and the discussion is finished within 60 seconds.


55 posted on 01/31/2008 8:04:47 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: xtinct

I bet John McCain believes the exact same thing.


56 posted on 01/31/2008 8:06:36 AM PST by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: xtinct
A shantytown during the Great Depression:

No carbon emmissions here, right Bill?

Shall we return to cooking with firewood or coal?

How about the good old "green" days of Hooverville?


57 posted on 01/31/2008 8:08:04 AM PST by kidd
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To: xtinct

This has to be a joke. It has to be The Onion. Slow down our economy? Just take that one line and you can beat Them in the fall.


58 posted on 01/31/2008 8:10:43 AM PST by Vinomori
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To: Vinomori

That’s why I posted the article — for posterity on FreeRepublic... :o)


59 posted on 01/31/2008 8:13:17 AM PST by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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To: xtinct

The best way to deal with the effects of climate change is to unleash capitalism and let the free market come up with any needed solutions depending on the circumstances


60 posted on 01/31/2008 8:13:53 AM PST by mjp (Live & let live. I don't want to live in Mexico, Marxico, or Muslimico. Statism & high taxes suck)
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