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Dialect debate strikes a nerve
http://www.aftenposten.no/english ^

Posted on 01/31/2008 6:22:13 AM PST by marthemaria

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1 posted on 01/31/2008 6:22:14 AM PST by marthemaria
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A lecturer at one of Norway's most prestigious universities is calling forer fellow Norwegians to tone down their dialects, so that non-natives trying to learn Norwegian can hope to understand them.

Don't tell me Mexicans are sneaking into Norway, too!

2 posted on 01/31/2008 6:25:12 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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They should make it easy for everyone: change your dialect to English so we can all understand you!


3 posted on 01/31/2008 6:25:39 AM PST by Sawdring
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I lived in Norway for a year some years ago and spent 4 months getting fluent in the language most commonly spoken in Oslo. After mastering that, the dialects were just a matter of listening harder. It was more difficult to stay consistent with one dialect when speaking, however.


4 posted on 01/31/2008 6:29:52 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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Oh yeah. Change your entire culture because some useless puffed-up looter from some University, who has never held a real job, says you should. LOL! The overweening arrogance... the insouciance of college looters never fails to amaze.


5 posted on 01/31/2008 6:30:13 AM PST by Seruzawa (Atilla the hun... he was a liberal, right?)
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Oh yeah. Change your entire culture because some useless puffed-up looter from some University, who has never held a real job, says you should.

Wouldn't it just be simpler if everyone would just learn Arabic?

6 posted on 01/31/2008 6:39:40 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Sawdring

In all fairness, English has an amazing number of accents and idioms too.


7 posted on 01/31/2008 6:40:01 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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Yeah, this doesn’t make much sense to me. I learned Albanian and speak Spanish as well. With Albanian, I first learned the literary language-that which is taught in the schools-and then I just had to listen a little harder to figure out the local dialect.

Each region had its own dialect, but it didn’t take a whole lot to figure the common roots of the words. The literary language was just a compromise between the dialects. You say potehto, I say potahto. Plus, the muhammedans moving to Norway should understand the “root word” concept of a language. It’s central to Arabic.

8 posted on 01/31/2008 6:42:47 AM PST by Skenderbej
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I thought everyone in the US spoke English like those in the movie Fargo.


9 posted on 01/31/2008 6:44:09 AM PST by Sawdring
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> change your dialect to English so we can all understand you <

Although your remark seems to have been made in good humor, you’d probably be interested to learn that a number of countries have long done pretty much what you recommend.

This phenomenon is most notable in Africa, where countries with dozens of local languages and dialects simply use English (or French) for all government business, for almost all newspapers, for most classroom instruction, etc. But it’s also found to one degree or another in a number of Asian countries — not to mention the worldwide use of English in aviation and other “technology-intensive” pursuits.


10 posted on 01/31/2008 6:44:23 AM PST by Hawthorn
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They should make it easy for everyone: change your dialect to English so we can all understand you!

And Midlands American English too. Not those strange dialects spoken in England, New York or Australia.

11 posted on 01/31/2008 6:45:15 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Rattenschadenfreude: joy at a Democrat's pain, especially Hillary's pain caused by Obama.)
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I once heard that India has the largest English speaking population.


12 posted on 01/31/2008 6:45:55 AM PST by Sawdring
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Yeah, but that isn’t real English - Midwestern accentless English.

That’s that “Queen’s English”...


13 posted on 01/31/2008 6:51:35 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: marthemaria

“dialects” - “Norbonics”?


14 posted on 01/31/2008 6:52:26 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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> I once heard that India has the largest English speaking population. <

Probably true.

But judged by the accents you hear from the Indian call centers whenever you dial up your computer vendor for technical support, it’s sometimes a stretch to believe their spoken language is actually English!

(Thank goodness that about half of the time, I reach a call center in Philippines rather than India!)


15 posted on 01/31/2008 6:52:37 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: Hawthorn
Saw a joke the other day:

I was depressed one night and thinking of killing myself so I called in to a suicide prevention center. My call was routed to a call center in Pakistan and after the suicide prevention expert on the other end couldn't talk me out of it he asked me if I could drive a large truck.

16 posted on 01/31/2008 7:03:37 AM PST by Sawdring
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To: marthemaria

How do you say, “A møøse bit my sister?”


17 posted on 01/31/2008 7:04:12 AM PST by Rocky
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To: Sawdring

Actually I was thinking English as (more or less) spoken by the English. We Americans seem to have far fewer accents and what we do have is less diverse.

Though what we do have can cause funny situations.

Years ago I took one of those tour group trips to Washington DC that kids take. At one point I was sitting in a cafeteria full of kids from all over and opposite this guy from Brooklyn (or someplace like that) who had an outrageous (for an American) accent.

This guy stops the conversation to tell me that I don’t have as bad an accent as the other Texans do.

Since I wasn’t yanking anyone’s chain about how many oil wells my family owned or if I rode a horse to school (sadly ‘none’ and ‘no’ ... not that some of my fellow Texans weren’t flinging the meadow muffins with vim and vigor), I guess he was serious.


18 posted on 01/31/2008 7:25:39 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Sawdring

Zing!

And nabbed! ^.^


19 posted on 01/31/2008 7:27:05 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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I thought everyone in the US spoke English like those in the movie Fargo.

Ya, you betcha!

20 posted on 01/31/2008 8:01:39 AM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (Monica Lewinsky's ex-boyfriend's wife for president! (Bumpersticker))
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