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Romney: McCain Out of Step With Conservative Mainstream
Fox News ^ | January 30, 2008

Posted on 01/30/2008 7:33:20 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

SIMI VALLEY, Calif. — Mitt Romney said Wednesday that John McCain is out of the conservative mainstream, as the rivals for the Republican presidential nomination vied for votes in next week’s multistate primary.

Romney, a former Massachusetts governor, said McCain twice voted against President Bush’s tax cuts and pushed campaign finance reforms that restricted fundraising and spending. The Republican establishment embraced the tax cuts and opposed the new campaign law, which many saw as more helpful to Democrats.

“Those view are outside the view of mainstream Republican thought,” Romney said in the opening moments of a debate at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library. The forum came 24 hours after McCain won Florida presidential primary despite criticisms that he is too moderate on several issues dear to party loyalists.

McCain, an Arizona senator, disputed the claims, saying “I’m proud of my conservative record.” He said Romney left Massachusetts with high taxes and a large debt. “His job creation was the third worst in the country,” McCain said.

Romney said McCain opposed Bush’s first-term tax cuts because they were tilted largely toward the wealthy. But such a cut, Romney said, “gets our rates down and stimulates the economy.”

McCain said he opposes tax cuts not coupled with spending restraints. Republicans lost congressional seats in 2006 less because of the Iraq war than because of out-of-control spending that alienated conservatives, McCain said.

The 90-minute debate allowed McCain and Romney to focus on one another after Florida voters left no doubt they are the two viable contenders for their party’s nomination. Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani left the race earlier Wednesday and endorsed McCain.

(Excerpt) Read more at youdecide08.foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ca2008; election; electionpresident; elections; gop; johnmccain; juanmcaztlan; mccain; mikehuckabee; mittromney; primaries; republicans; rinos; romney; ronpaul
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With Schwarzenegger endorsing McCain, do we need any more proof of Juan McAztlan's liberal bent and the love the MSM and RINO establishment has for him?
1 posted on 01/30/2008 7:33:34 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, it takes a RINO to know a RINO.


2 posted on 01/30/2008 7:34:58 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did he say out of step:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_w9pquznG4


3 posted on 01/30/2008 7:35:32 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, I love how McCain is bending over backwards claiming that he’s proud to have been a Reagan conservative footsoldier blah blah blah...

And then at the same time he’s hanging out with Ahnuld and Joementum. Real conservative friends you’ve got there, John.

Birds of a feather.


4 posted on 01/30/2008 7:35:39 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day (Capitalism without failure is like religion without sin.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well the only thing going for Romney is that all of the RINO’s despise him . McPain seems to have locked up the RINO establishment support .

If Romney had only made right on certain issues , he would be a lock for the nomination .


5 posted on 01/30/2008 7:42:29 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (The company that McPain keeps : MSM / Fellow RINO's . McPain = CFR , Amnesty)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Saw the whole debate. McCain sat there with a smart arse grin the entire time. He had a know it all attitude and took several cheap shots that did not look presidential at all.

Not a Romney fan, but McCain really came off as obnoxious.

6 posted on 01/30/2008 7:43:40 PM PST by mr_hammer (...checking the breeze and barking at things that go bump in the night.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Mitt, "the multiple choice candidate" LOL!

Well, Ted *hick-up* does seem to have a level discernment going for him once in a while.

7 posted on 01/30/2008 7:44:47 PM PST by hope (Isaiah 53 nothing redacted)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McCain is simply full of sheite.


8 posted on 01/30/2008 7:46:43 PM PST by Radix (If your outgo exceeds your income, your upkeep will be your downfall.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
'RONALD REAGAN "A Time for Choosing"'
9 posted on 01/30/2008 7:47:45 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, it certainly appears that the talk radio crowd wants Romney, while the libs want McCain. At least I know who to vote for now.


10 posted on 01/30/2008 8:05:28 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Jim Robinson
Although I am probably the most guilty here for thrashing McCain in the past, his record is probably the most conservative and pro-life that can be substantiated..Read on..







Right on McCain
John McCainÂ’s conservative record is excellent.

By Senator Jon Kyl

I have had the distinct pleasure of serving with Senator John McCain for the last 12 years in the U.S. Senate. Yet just as important to me as our shared years of service is our common respect for the conservative principles that have guided us in representing our state. That is why the characterization of John McCain as something other than a common-sense conservative is disturbing to me. Senator McCain’s detractors overlook his actual voting record of supporting conservative values.

During my time in the Senate with John McCain, we have cast the same vote nearly nine times out of ten. Whether in our efforts against inefficiency and waste in the federal budget, confronting the threat we face from international terrorism, protecting the sanctity of human life, or some other issue, Senator McCain has been loyal to, and a leader for, conservative beliefs.

Senator McCain is well known for his long history of protecting the interests of the American taxpayer. He is without question the best choice for voters opposed to wasteful Washington spending and bloated budgets.

Last year, Senator McCain introduced the Pork-Barrel Reduction Act, a bill focused on transparency and fiscal restraint. In 2005, Senator McCain and I were two of the four senators to vote against the pork-laden highway bill. During the 109th Congress, Citizens Against Government Waste gave McCain a 91 percent rating, and Pork Busters, a collaboration of fiscal-watchdog groups, labeled him as an “Anti-Pork Hero” in 2006.

Conservatives should be outraged about the wasteful spending in Washington, and they should be exacting in their demand for a culture of fiscal restraint. John McCain meets this demand.

On the ever-important issue of life, Senator McCain has a record of voting for pro-life legislation: He has voted for bans on partial birth abortion; he has supported the “Unborn Victims of Violence Act” and parental notification for minors; and he has voted against using federal money to distribute morning-after contraception in schools.

He has repeatedly co-sponsored the Child Custody Protection Act, which prohibits the transportation of minors across state lines in order to circumvent state laws, requiring instead the involvement of parents in abortion decisions.

What do pro-abortion groups think of Senator McCain? NARAL Pro-Choice America and Planned Parenthood have both given him zero percent, no-confidence ratings because he has stood up against them for decades. John McCain’s opposition to abortion has been consistent.

Senator McCain also strongly believes in the institution of marriage. He voted for and supported the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act, which banned federal recognition of gay marriage and same-sex partner benefits. Senator McCain endorsed and campaigned for an initiative to amend the Arizona constitution to define marriage as between one man and woman.

The defining issue for any candidate who seeks the presidency next year will be that person’s vision for conducting the war against terrorists and our mission in Iraq; there is no one stronger on this issue, or with more credibility, than John McCain.

His support for a safe and secure Middle East is well documented. And Senator McCain’s belief in the relationship between our eventual success in that region and our safety at home is one that I share.

Most conservatives believe in aggressive pursuit of terrorists and jihadists. But John McCain has been willing to put his political career on the line for the sake of his belief that these terrorists must be defeated. As the ranking member on the Senate Armed Services Committee, John McCain has long been an outspoken critic of the management of the war, and there is plenty to criticize on that score.

But Senator McCain has also been stronger than all others in his belief in the absolute importance of victory and in his own principled dedication to seeking peace and security over the political expediency of defeatism. Conservatives who believe deeply in the responsibility to defend our country know that no leadership trait is more vital to our next president.

More than any other reason, this is why conservatives should support John McCain. In matters of national security, he instinctively understands threats to the United States, and he knows what needs to be done about them. Even in the face of political adversity, he is unwavering in his commitment to America’s security.

 Jon Kyl is a Republican senator from Arizona.

National Review Online - http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YTA2ZmRjNDNlN2YzYjI0OWM5Mzc0MmJmOGU5YTg2ODg=

11 posted on 01/30/2008 8:09:56 PM PST by hope (Isaiah 53 nothing redacted)
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To: Jim Robinson

You are aware Romney’s conversion occured in 2004, correct? He doesn’t deny being pro-choice in 2002.


12 posted on 01/30/2008 8:27:48 PM PST by flintsilver7
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To: hope

I’m not excited about Romney or McCain, but I’d find it easier to vote for the latter; i.e., a smaller clothespin for my nose! This isn’t saying much, but I trust him more than I do Romney.


13 posted on 01/30/2008 8:29:36 PM PST by Theresawithanh (Oh joy, McLame or Mittens?)
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To: mr_hammer

McCain is also a well known hothead who can’t accept criticism without getting off an insult on someone in return. He won’t be able to keep his cool throughout the entire campaign. He’s an implosion waiting to happen.


14 posted on 01/30/2008 8:33:30 PM PST by dowcaet
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To: Theresawithanh

Same for me...But, this I do know, McCain will be the best for the WOT. He has not changed on that position. And he has never changed his pro-life position either.


15 posted on 01/30/2008 8:35:35 PM PST by hope (Isaiah 53 nothing redacted)
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To: hope
With all due respect, Jim, a letter of support from fellow Senate Club member John Kyl does not make up for his votes against the Bush tax cuts, against drilling in ANWR, and in favor of McCain-Feingold and McCain-Kennedy. But above all else, his act of sedition against President Bush in the matter of federal judgeships is unconscienable.

I understand you don't like Romney, but I would much prefer a candidate who is shifting towards the right than one who is sliding toward the left.

16 posted on 01/30/2008 8:40:30 PM PST by Hoodat (The whole point of the Conservative Movement is to gain converts, not demonize them.)
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To: hope

McCain is probably the best candidate for the war on Islamic terrorism, at least as it applies to the Middle East. He’s terrible when it comes to protecting the Mexican border, which unfortunately bears some relevance to Islamic terrorism.

What most people here don’t seem to understand is that nothing will be done about abortion until the majority view in the country changes. I oppose abortion in all cases, yet I realize that as the country is split more or less 50/50 the most effect anybody can have is only on appointing judges. (Bush is pro-life, and has appointed conservative judges. That’s it.) McCain’s actions with judges indicate he’d likely be, in effect, a pro-abortion candidate.


17 posted on 01/30/2008 8:40:38 PM PST by flintsilver7
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To: dowcaet

Americans will not vote for an obviously unhealthy and unhinged pro-amnesty candidate, no matter the vote fraud and MSM running interference.

McDamaged is going down hard, and he should be grateful Romeny is respectful of and semi-deferent to him.

Old age and treachery > youth and skill: that’s not the case anymore.


18 posted on 01/30/2008 8:46:13 PM PST by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs /Romney '08 / Yes you will vote against Clinton)
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To: Colofornian
"I'm for Tancredo, I won't vote for that Fred, a phony conservative, he's terrible!

"I'm for Fred, I won't vote for that Romney, a phony conservative, he's terrible!"

"I'm for Romney, I won't vote for that McCain, a phony conservative, he's terrible!"

"I'm for McCain, I wont' vote for that Hillary, a lib/socialist, she's terrible!"

This is called the ever-shifting, ever-downward spiraling cycle of (some) conservatives rationalizing their vote this year.

At some point, it has to stop and you have to stand on Principle and let it go NO FURTHER.

I did not rationalize since my man, Duncan Hunter, was pushed out by the Establishment and the MSM.

The rest of it is just a RINO game, if you ask me. Can't get too enthralled about it.

Just waiting for the primary to come to my state, so I can vote for Duncan Hunter in protest if he is still on the ballot, and then with McCain as the nominee, I will seriously consider leaving the Republican Party officially.

19 posted on 01/30/2008 8:52:42 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Enough has been said already. The 2008 GOP RINO takeover is complete. It is what it is.)
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To: Colofornian

agreed


20 posted on 01/30/2008 9:13:42 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck is the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aren't going.)
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