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Christian Photographer Hauled before Commission for Refusing Same-Sex Job
LifeSiteNews ^ | 1/30/08 | John Jalsevac

Posted on 01/30/2008 4:22:09 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: JoJo Gunn
"And this is another reason why the silent GOP is dying and some of us just don’t give a damn anymore."

Hey man I hear you loud and clear.

Especially after witnessing for the past 20 or so years of how this party being lead by such illustrious wafflers and power hungry skunks like McCain, and Lindsey Graham, along with all the other notorious sell outs to liberals has effectively diluted the very essence of the once great Regan revolution in our country .

It's because of their so called " reaching across the isles" tactics that has brought us to crap like this in the first place. I say that it's time for a REAL REVOLUTION in this country which can be in the form of a 3rd party.

THE NEW CONSERVATIVE PARTY!

I will not support McCain, even if the Party considers him as the only hope of stopping Hillary or not! No matter which of the two win, we as conservatives (and moral America at large) loose, and there simply is no denying it.

101 posted on 01/30/2008 8:18:49 PM PST by Hillarys nightmare (So Proud to be living in "Jesus Land" ! Don't you wish everyone did?)
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To: Pablo64
Yeah....but there still wouldn’t be any pictures or speeches (I know, I’m just too stubborn for my own good).

As you should be. This is an outrage.

102 posted on 01/30/2008 8:23:40 PM PST by timm22 (Think critically)
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To: wagglebee

There is a reported case in California where Gloria Allred won a case identical to this one. The jury gave the two grieving plaintiffs a whopping $250. The court then awarded the distinguished plaintiffs’ counsel attorney fees of nearly $100,000!


103 posted on 01/30/2008 8:23:51 PM PST by DryFly
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To: Brilliant

I will be following this case. If the plaintiffs win, I will no longer be doing business with New Mexico except for US government contracts. BTW, New Mexico is extremely business hostile.


104 posted on 01/30/2008 8:24:03 PM PST by Fred Hayek (Leftism is a mental disorder)
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To: yankeedame

Good for him. I have never had the opportunity to make any kind of tainted money, even in the mainstream, but would turn it down anyway. For example, I would not work for a cable company that distribute porn; Time-Warner, et. al., and certainly not any company that had anything to do with anti-life or anti-family causes. I had a close call when I found out the research laboratory I worked for had developed an abortion pump for Africa, but that was ten years previous to my employment so I let it slide.


105 posted on 01/30/2008 8:24:53 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: wagglebee
This is JUST LIKE the Tribunals in Canada. Human rights commissions my foot. They are not Judges, and their agendas are clear. This is at best stalinistic tactics. We have no more freedom of association nor freedom of speech or religion. These tribunals throw our Constitution out the window, and terrorize good decent people!

Where does this stop? They make you buy from homosexual companies? Make you patronize homosexual owned restaurants? If a private contractor goes to a home to estimate a job, and is uncomfortable there for any reason, is he not allowed to turn it down?

106 posted on 01/30/2008 8:26:01 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican! GoHunter.08)
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To: the invisib1e hand
LoL! I was thinking the same thing.

She ought to haul the 'Human Rights Division' in front of the Constitutional Rights Division. :-)

107 posted on 01/30/2008 8:29:17 PM PST by rvoitier (Remember, she's just Mrs. Bill Clinton)
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To: wagglebee

What happened to “We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone”? Sheesh. Jonah Goldberg is right on. Liberals are fascists and individual right are going down the toilet. Either Hillary or McCain will pull the chain for the last big flush.


108 posted on 01/30/2008 8:51:05 PM PST by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice.)
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To: wagglebee
In their complaint the homosexual couple has sought for an injunction against Elane Photography that will forbid them from ever again refusing to photograph a same-sex ceremony. They have also requested attorney's fees.

You vill axzept our lifeztyle und you vill like it. Achtung!

The gaystapo strikes again.
109 posted on 01/30/2008 8:55:04 PM PST by Antoninus (Flip Romney: Fighting to make the national GOP look more like the Massachusetts GOP.)
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To: wagglebee
The case of a Christian photographer who refused to photograph a
same-sex "commitment ceremony", was heard before the New Mexico
Human Rights Division on Monday.


This is what happens when "enlightened liberals" run a country.

Soon even the right to freedom of ARTISTIC expression is slaughtered
on the altar of Political Correctness.

Not to mention the freedom to enter or pass on contract work.
110 posted on 01/30/2008 9:00:06 PM PST by VOA
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To: 353FMG

Cool.


111 posted on 01/30/2008 9:20:16 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Hillarys nightmare

Incrementalism, plain and simple. And unfortunately you see too much clamoring for it even here, right before our very eyes.

I’ve had enough of the Grand Old Plantation.


112 posted on 01/30/2008 9:20:44 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered. ©)
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To: wagglebee

I am wondering if its time to take up arms again.


113 posted on 01/30/2008 9:24:00 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon
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To: steve86
You may be correct about some business, but not all of them provide an instance like this where someones personal faith is being challenged. For example: if I owned a coffee shop I would not be telling homosexual couples that I don't want to serve them coffee because I believe that homosexuality is wrong. That's different than them trying to re-define the sacred (in my belief) bond of marriage. One scenario forces me to violate my personal beliefs (a "gay" wedding) and the other doesn't (exchanging my coffee for their money) as I don't find it immoral for them to drink coffee.

It really comes down to that issue. What they need to understand is that for every photographer who's personal beliefs require them to turn down a job such as this, there are probably a dozen others who will have no problem taking the job, so they are still free to have pictures taken of their "ceremony". Nobody denied them that right.

114 posted on 01/31/2008 5:12:07 AM PST by Pablo64 (What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
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To: wagglebee

What a farce. Thank you for posting this. Amerika?


115 posted on 01/31/2008 5:32:20 AM PST by Greg F (Romney appointed homosexual activists as judges in Massachusetts.)
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To: Morgana
OH PLEASE!!! it is not really lying if you can find somewhere else to be working else that day!!! I know I could! Even if it was doing a job for free I would not be lying!!!!

I think the point is that you should not have to find something else to do. You should be able to say "You are a carpet muncher and I don't like you so I won't do it"

Or "You're ugly so I won't do it"

Or "You're black so I won't do it"

Or "You're catholic so I won't do it"

Or "You're handicapped so I won't do it"

etc

Our freedom of association has been stolen. If I choose not to associate with anyone for any reason what right does anyone else have to force me to do so? NONE!

116 posted on 01/31/2008 7:54:41 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Pablo64

“Nobody can make you take a good picture if you don’t want to.”

New Mexico’s Department of Equal Photography would see right through this!


117 posted on 01/31/2008 8:14:49 AM PST by JZelle
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To: Jeff Head
Now they probably would have sued you.

Carolyn

118 posted on 01/31/2008 8:22:28 AM PST by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: JZelle
Department of Equal Photography, LOL!

Maybe, but there is no way they could prove it and there is still no way they can force you to take a good picture.

"Good" is a subjective term. There are many "art" exhibits that are called "good", but too me (and a lot of people), a warm bucket of used food looks better.

If I was the photographer and they really got pissy about it, I would start throwing a tantrum about how they were trying to "stifle my creativity", etc.

119 posted on 01/31/2008 8:25:05 AM PST by Pablo64 (What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
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To: Cruising Speed; All
A friend of mine (a lib evangelical Christian) sent me this response.

I hate to pull out the ole "what would Jesus do," but do you really think he would have refused to make a wooden table for a homosexual couple? Or do you think he would have caught the wrath of the pharisees by not only delivering that table but by breaking bread with them on said table?

Fire away!

[Just remember it's not ME who said that!!! :-) ]

120 posted on 01/31/2008 8:26:46 AM PST by NucSubs (Rudy Giuliani 2008! Our liberal democrat is better than theirs!)
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