Posted on 01/30/2008 9:24:45 AM PST by nmh
WASHINGTON — Ralph Nader is seeking the presidency — again.
The consumer activist and political gadfly kicked off an exploratory presidential campaign Wednesday with the launch of a new Web site that promises he’ll fight “corporate greed, corporate power, corporate control” and asks people to donate $300 each.
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Without Nader the 2000 moonbat vote would have settled for Gore and he would have won Florida and the election.
But about that $300, I was really saving it for a Corvair.
Ummmmmm,...this might actually be more fun than I thinking.....
My guess would be ...
(R) McCain/ Thompson — or possibly Romney/ Thompson (which is why I think Fred Thompson has declined to endorse);
(D) Clinton/ Edwards;
(I) Nader (don’t know who he’d pick — doubt it’ll be Kucinich, Kook’ll have to focus on his House campaign);
(I) Bloomberg (also don’t know — Paul’s got too much baggage though);
(G) McKinney (who cares)
I think a McCain or Romney ticket with Fred Thompson would be strong competition for Clinton/ Edwards. Neither is perfect doctrinally by any stretch (though Romney would be preferable to McCain) — but the addition of Fred to either ticket may help comfort concerned conservatives.
I don’t see McCain adding Huckabee ... strategically, he’ll need a southern conservative. Ultimately — McKinney, Bloomberg and Nader would all siphon from Clinton (some, but not a ton) ... which is good news for us.
Strategically speaking, in a McCain/Thompson vs. Clinton/Edwards election — I think we’d have a good shot at winning. McCain is likeable, even if not particulary conservative, and popular among the middle. Hillary is not likeable at all. Thompson might help bring conservatives back into the fold, and the Nader/Bloomberg/McKinney trifecta should siphon off a few leftist purists.
Doctrinally speaking, the re-addition of Thompson to either a Romney or McCain ticket is the closest we’re going to get to having a true conservative in the White House.
H
With all due respect to Fred, if he could have done that, he'd still be in the race.
We need to take a page from Soreass and set up websites touting McKinney and Nader, triangulation and misdirection. The conservatives had always played fairrrrr,I think its time to start reading the lefts play book.
I’ve been saying that for years. Playing fair is fine, but it’s also for sissies, Baseball and sports. It’s not fine in politics and war. It’s time to demolish the opposition. Unfortunately, the opposition is in our own party now.
>> With all due respect to Fred, if he could have done that, he’d still be in the race.
Thompson was universally considered the most conservative candidate in the race. Most conservatives, however, didn’t think he could win (and, apparently, they were right) — so they pragmatically voted elsewhere.
H
The part of that which will keep me up tonight is the fact that you are absolutely right.
There was a time when I thought Nader the worst presidential candidate ever, and my opinion of him has never improved.
Well, that’s my point. As much as I like him, I don’t see Fred bringing any conservatives back to a McCain ticket.
I hope not. HE could draw votes from Hillary. I don’t want her to be president. But I believe McCain is greater danger. He must never be allowed to be president.
>> As much as I like him, I don’t see Fred bringing any conservatives back to a McCain ticket.
Well — McCain with a truly conservative VP is better than McCain without one. Thompson would likely make true conservatives feel more comfortable voting for the Clinton-alternative (which is all they’d really be doing in casting a vote for McCain). It couldn’t hurt his chances.
Ultimately — its best for this country if Hillary Clinton never again resides in the White House. If that reality means I, as a patriot, must hold my nose and vote for John McCain — I’d much rather do that with Thompson (or another true conservative) than without him.
H
I have said for years that a candidate for president should have to under go a stringent personality test. Like the ones companies give when hiring new administrative personnel. Certainly if big firms are concerned about the mental and emotional stability of their company's management personnel, we should have some test for the prospective leader of our country to at least determine if he/she is sane. That would weed out most of the candidates like we have this time.
Exactly. Nader will never be forgiven by the Left as his ambitions in 2000 clearly cost Gore the election.
They're not going to allow this to happen again.
Run Ralph, run.
I agree with you on that, but every little bit helps. - Look what a few hundred votes did in Florida once. :)
Yeah baby,
That is just what this circus needs,
Ralph Nader.
Where’s Alfred E. Newman?
LOL!
>> Huckabee will probably win Georgia and quite a few other southern states, making him a much better contender for VP. What would Thompson bring? He started high in the polls and dropped like a rock.
True Southern conservatism. Even when he didn’t win, Thompson always polled as the most conservative candidate throughout the south — more conservative than Huck, Romney, McCain or Giuliani. The fact that he didn’t look like he could win ultimately killed his campaign.
>> I don’t think McCain is interested in appeasing conservatives
He keeps calling himself the true conservative candidate. He’d LOVE to appease conservatives!
>> ... and if he was, then he would probably get Romney instead of Fred as VP.
He needs the conservative south. Romney’s not doing well in the south ... you don’t appease conservative southerners by apponting a yankee of questionable conservative pedigree.
>> Plus, didn’t Fred say he wasn’t interested in a VP spot?
They all say that. However, members of his staff have been in the media hinting otherwise. Why else wouldn’t he endorse?
H
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