yup... 8^) my bad
Posted on 01/29/2008 2:39:37 PM PST by Incorrigible
Your comment is on target..but remember that those who made those comments were probably REMF's who had not left that bar stool in years. Think of them as John Kerry's....phoney heroes....
Let’s not be hasty and cast aspersions here at Freerepublic, let’s preserve the dignity of those who post; judge not please. I’ve seen too many freepers go by the way side. Without posters, we lose the glue that holds us together.
I am a lIfe member of the VFW at my hometown post.. Past Commander of the local post when I was assigned to Hill AFB in Utah.
I am also a member of the American Legion.. and even rose to the position of 1st Vice Commander.. and then I just became a member who would help.. All because I had a Legionare who told me he was a better veteran than me because I was a “gulf war/Iraq War” vet and we did not count compared to him being a Vietnam veteran..
I am a member of the legion.. but that experience left a bad taste in my mouth
The Grand Army of the Republic, the GAR, was a group of Union Civil War veterans. It was one of the most influential groups in the late 19th century. But as its members — lets face facts and call it what it is — got old and died, its influence faded. Eventually, it ceased to exist.
It’s the way of things. There are no Civil War veterans left. fewer than a handful of WWI vets. I don’t have any children, but if I manage to, they will probably never meet or remember a WWII vet. Even the very youngest Vietnam vet is pushing 60.
I guess this will go on for another 10 years or so.
No BS, my friend. My DD 214s clearly reveal my dates of service, as do my honorable discharge certificates.
The AL and the VFW clearly spell out which periods count and which periods don't count.
Look into it if you don't know that they don't accept all veterans who served their country.
I estimate the youngest VN vets to be in their early to mid 50s. If you were 18 in the early 70s, you’d be 54 now.
DD214 didn’t seem to accomplish anything. They could not seem to transcribe anything off of it correctly. The DD214 does not directly place me in VN because it was a Security AFSC and VFW had to get the info from the USAF. They got that right at least once but could not connect that with the name and number they could not get right. I have since joined American Legion but the local VFW has revived quite a bit while the Legion is moribund hereabouts.
yup... 8^) my bad
Sorry for your loss. My God bless him for his service and your family!
thank you
the cops waited in the parking lot for the men to come out after a game or such.
They did that after a clambake once and the next year, had the nerve to butt in line for freebees - the men that were cooking all stopped and stared and told him to get out.
its a crying shame that vets get treated like this.
“to the point his freedom was less imporatant than drinking and driving?”
no, he decided his freedom to drink and not have any accidents was more important than an arbitrary law that has no basis in reality.
he moved out of state and is rumored to have changed his identity.
do you know that the BA of those that have accidents is LOWER than the general driving population?
Put that in your “finger pointing” pipe and smoke it.
Didn’t the Grand Army of the Republic later relent and allow Confederate veterans to join, as Civil War vets from both sides became aged and wartime hatreds cooled?
Dumba$$ thing for an officer to say. Maybe your oxygen mask was loose at high altitude?
If you know the cops are out there then you need to follow the law. Yeah it’s lame for cops to be targeting vets, but it’s at least as lame for a vet to be in a condition to do jail time for drunk driving. Drunk drivers are dangerous, and not just to themselves, the 70s are over we as a nation have realized drunk driving isn’t cool, isn’t grown up, and is no longer to be tolerated. And nothing about being a veteran changes any of that, if anything it makes it worse, you guys are old enough to know better.
...arbitrary law that has no basis in reality.
>>>>WOW! You seriously don’t think alcohol delays your reaction time?
do you know that the BA of those that have accidents is LOWER than the general driving population?
>>>>Not surprising at all, but when they DO get into an accident they’ll be charged, even if they weren’t at fault. Because they broke the law. And if they WERE at fault, it’s senseless when there’s other options.
Sorry never subscribed to the “well everyone else does it” crowd.
And just because he moved out of state and changed his identity doesn’t mean his behavior won’t catch up to him, perhaps in a VERY bad way!
You still haven’t answered the question, would you fly on a plane with a legally intoxicated pilot, or have your brain operated on by an intoxicated brain surgeon?
The American Legion does not suffer this same problem, and that is my point. The VFW does not have to change their emphasis on war veterans, just not exclude veterans who were otherwise their peers. Otherwise, the culture of the two organizations is so different, that veterans would have a choice.
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