Posted on 01/29/2008 1:06:35 PM PST by george76
Edited on 01/29/2008 2:53:41 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Even Hollywood couldn't have written a more ideal script for the Internal Revenue Service than actor Wesley Snipes' tax-fraud trial.
At a time when millions of Americans are buckling down to prepare their taxes, Snipes is being cast as a villainous example of the dangers of joining with Internet-fueled activists who claim the IRS has no authority to collect taxes.
More here too: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1871788/posts
So that fits with my take that the employer was saving big on fica taxes...
That’s because in a society without ‘political correctness’ and a ‘safety net’ but with a firm sense of law and order, Social Darwinism would wipe out the good-for-nothing population that lowers the quality of life, and push those border-line cases into becoming responsible citizens.
Half of what the government spends from the General Fund is going into maintaining that safety net. Without all that spending, people would either fail completely and die out, or get their act together. The safety net keeps them in a limbo where they are continually dependent on government handouts but free to roam around and ruin our quality of life.
Interesting idea.
He’d save on FICA due to the lower wages his employees were willing to accept. He might also claim a business loss since he’d have to buy a $50 gold piece for $800 but only get $50 due to the ‘exchange rate’ to US Dollars.
It has always struck me as IMPORTANT information.
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It is dangerous to be right when the state is wrong.
Voltaire
Training Apes
A number of years ago, animal psychologists performed an experiment that goes a long way toward understanding some of the more perverse and illogical aspects of human behavior. And while Im NOT putting humans down there with the monkeys, recent political events certainly make it increasingly difficult to maintain that separation.
Heres what they did:
They began with a cage containing 5 apes. In the cage, they dangled a banana on a string near the roof and placed a set of stairs beneath it. One of the psychologists stationed himself above the cage with a high-pressure water hose. When the first ape attempted to climb the stairs toward the banana, the man on the hose opened up and thoroughly sprayed ALL the apes with ice cold water. The moment another of the apes attempted to touch the stairs, they ALL got another ice water shower. When yet another ape attempted the climb, another freezing deluge ensued.
At some point in the process, when one of the apes touched the stairs, the other apes frantically PULLED HIM BACK - even though NO water was sprayed on them.
They then removed one of the original apes and replaced it with a new one not involved in the first part of the exercise. The new ape spied the banana and headed for the stairs. He was IMMEDIATELY attacked by the other 4. After a few more attempts - and attacks - the new ape soon understood that any further attempts would result in another assault.
They then removed ANOTHER of the original apes, again replacing it with a new one. The newcomer went to the stairs and was promptly attacked by the other 4, INCLUDING the first replacement ape who had NEVER received the cold water shower.
They then removed the third of the original apes and inserted a new one. The new ape made it to the stairs and, as with the others, was promptly attacked. Two of the 4 apes that assaulted this new member had no idea WHY climbing the stairs was a forbidden activity or WHY they were participating in the assaults on the transgressors.
The experimenters then replaced the 4th and 5th apes leaving none of the original apes. No apes subjected to the cold showers remained in the cage.
Nevertheless, NO APES AGAIN EVER APPROACHED THE STAIRS.
If you dont get the point of this story, go sit in the back of a courtroom during one of the thousands of victimless crime trials each year and watch the jurors refuse to touch the stairs.
“Without all that spending, people would either fail completely and die out, or get their act together. “
i think you’re missing a major point: these programs are jobs for worthless political hacks. these are useless individuals with idiotic credentials that suck at the government’s teats.
they have been, and will be a plague on any political system.
i could go on but, just visit some agency and request the services that they are supposed to provide.
Im afraid that iagree with Snipes
you are well advised to be afraid.
Getting rid of the deadwood government employees would be half-accomplished if we eliminated all the safety-net programs where they ‘work’.
To get rid of the rest, just give government employees bonuses and raises for cutting costs within their departments — including by headcount reduction. I think we can safely count on their own larceny to cut headcount to the bare minimum using such a dog-eat-dog bonus plan, don’t you ?
Dude, you just scared me with that thought.
You actually think that posting BS constitutes civilized discourse?
LOL.
theres more!
I'm sure there is, but why would you post yet nore BS about Joe Banister, a former California CPA who had his California CPA license REVOKED and who has been DISBARRED from practice before the IRS?
I also know of a pilot that won on a similar level a few years ago.
So does anyone who pays attention.
The difference is that you don't know what you're talking about.
Vernice Kuglin was also acquitted of willful failure to file.
GUESS WHAT?
She also owes every single penny of tax, penalty and interest and is busy paying it. And her criminal lawyers. The IRS has been garnishing her wages ever since her CRIMINAL trial "win." A criminal trial has nothing whatsoever to do with your civil tax liability.
Just like Cryer, she avoided prison. That's it.
Her case was simple: Show me where, in the code, it says my wages are taxable and I will gladly pay
No, it wasn't.
Just like Cryer, her defense was that she was TOO STUPID to understand the simple requirements under 26 USC. "I really didn't know I had to file."
The jury bought it. Even a blind tax protester finds a nut now and then.
The case is building...
LOL. The "Cheek" defense (I'm too dense to understand what everyone else easily understands) only works ONCE.
Are you really this stupid, or do you just play an idiot on FR?
Who's defending the IRS? Not me.
I pointed out that Cryer (and every other moron who has won based on a "Cheek" defense, that is, I really, really didn't think I had to file) still owes every penny of tax, penalty and interest. They avoided prison, not their tax liability.
What's your point?
Are you a TP, too?
Who said I hate you? Or "us?"
I merely pointed out that you don't know what you're mouthing off about.
You, on the other hand, waded right into a thread with insults. Sure sign you don't have a real argument and are just trying to stir the pot...
Ah, I "waded" right into it with FACTS.
Do FACTS upset you?
For some strange reason, you seem to think I'm defending the IRS when all I did was point out exactly how some of the other posts on this thread were FACTUALLY INCORRECT.
Of course, nobody has been able to dispute what I said about the facts because the facts are what they are, and they're stubborn things.
Then you claim that's a "sure sign you don't have a real argument."
Surely you're not that dense. Or, maybe you are.
Thanks. He’s as much a hero as that character he played in “Demolition Man”. But perhaps the society expects too much of Hollyweirdos.
Thanks george76.
Now, you continue the attacks by calling me "dense".
We all know that the TP argument of the 16th being "illegal", or that only certain brackets or external Nationalities are "required" to pay income taxes are utter fabrications. This does not mean that the IRS itself has not been subject to thousands of investigations for malfeasance of every stripe.
It's the closest thing our Government has to a Mafia. "Pay up, or we break your knee caps." The system it runs under should be anathema to any "liberty" minded adult.
Care to have a real discussion about possible remedies? Or would you rather just sit there and act like some punk kid?
Thanks for playing. I’m off to something more productive. It was fun!
>>Who said I hate you? Or “us?”
I merely pointed out that you don’t know what you’re mouthing off about.<<
You crack me up. Seriously! ;)
Do you dispute tha Banister had his California CPA license revoked and has been disbarred from practice before the IRS?
Do you dispute that Kuglin owes every single penny of tax, penalty and interest and is busy paying it?
Didn't think so.
Neither you nor anyone else has a thing to say about those facts.
"Pay up, or we break your knee caps."
The law is what it is. Don't pay and they will try to collect. Evade and they may prosecute criminally. Hardly the "mafia." Except to the delusional.
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