[Antoninus]

You lost me with the "bible-thumpers" comment. I'd expect that kind of junk out of the KosKidz, but not from a conservative who knows that Evangelicals are our political allies and alienating them is a sure way to lose a national election.

Based on that, I'm not surprised you've identified stealth-liberal Flip Romney as the "least bad" choice.

Romney's actually the second worst choice. If you look at how liberalism advanced on all fronts while he was governor of Massachusetts, and the GOP devolved into the pathetic rump party that it is today, with no shot of winning another statewide election in the foreseeable fuure, that should tell you all you need to know about Flip.

If you want the National GOP of the future to resemble the Massachusetts GOP of today, vote for Mitt.

[perfect_rovian_storm]

He said that Fred wasn’t a ‘bible thumper’, which is true. When I think of a ‘bible thumper’, I think of a phony like Huckabee using the bible to pander and trick people or at the very least someone making an issue out of their religion for political gain.

[BMIC]

Evangelicals are our political allies and alienating them is a sure way to lose a national election.

And that's not just speaking hypothetically. Just ask Bob Dole. If there is a demise of the Republican Party, it will have been the price paid for alienating social conservatives by calling them "Bible thumpers" and worse.

[Zhang Fei]

You lost me with the "bible-thumpers" comment.

Bible thumper is the respectful term for evangelicals. The less respectful terms are Jesus freak, Rapturist, etc.

The idea that Romney advanced the liberal cause in Mass is wrong. The Mass legislature is 85% Democrat - a veto-proof majority by a country mile. Romney slowed them down, watering down their socialist universal health plan by mandating that private insurers be involved. He also managed to appoint some Republican judges in that den of iniquity.

[Sideshow Bob]

You lost me with the "bible-thumpers" comment. I'd expect that kind of junk out of the KosKidz, but not from a conservative who knows that Evangelicals are our political allies and alienating them is a sure way to lose a national election.

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Sorry, certain evangelicals were either stupid or egotistical in believing that Huckabee's faith trumped all of the negatives of his candidacy.

If we don't recognize our mistakes and learn from them, we'll only repeat them.

[scripter]

If you want the National GOP of the future to resemble the Massachusetts GOP of today, vote for Mitt.

Indeed. Many nation-wide conservatives should have learned the lesson Schwartzneggar taught Californians with S.B. 777. Unfortunately, many didn't.

[mountainbunny]

You lost me with the "bible-thumpers" comment. I'd expect that kind of junk out of the KosKidz, but not from a conservative who knows that Evangelicals are our political allies and alienating them is a sure way to lose a national election.

(The "bible-thumpers" comment wasn't mine, but I wanted to include it to preserve the flow of your reply).

I agree that calling people names isn't helpful, but as a non-evangelical conservative, I look at the name calling Dr. Dobson engaged in as a key reason that a true conservative isn't on the ballot. Saying repeatedly that Fred Thompson was not a Christian hurt FT badly, IMO.

Evangelicals may be our allies, but their leaders are not right when they trash decent candidates for their own personal reasons.

I used to support FOTF because I thought they did good work, but after those incidents, do not do so any more.

[cowdog77]

You lost me with the “bible-thumpers” comment. I’d expect that kind of junk out of the KosKidz, but not from a conservative who knows that Evangelicals are our political allies and alienating them is a sure way to lose a national election.”
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Ditto....juvenile

[WOSG]

“Romney’s actually the second worst choice. “

Well the race is really now down to two candidates, Mitt Romney and John McCain. With Rudy and Huck trailing in FL, they are both out. So technically, you and Sideshow Bob are *both right*.

Vote Mitt Romney ... at least he’s not pro-amnesty John F***Y** McCain.

[wardaddy]

Me too.....FR seems overrun with folks who loathe actual social conservatives....particularly southern Protestants yet they bigot bait over anyone dare question a Mormon....