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To: Sideshow Bob

westmichman, who else are you referring to as Dobson haters?

OK Bob, Here we go. Referring to Dobson and other evangelicals.

post#21: certain evangelicals are stupid or egotistical
#36: complete ass
#54: trash
#65: idiot
#111 don’t like, smarmy, holier than thou, prima donna
#112 religious bigot
#119: ayatollah Dobson
#125: dishonest, distasteful, unChristlike,
#128: religious bigotry
#348: sanctimonius prig
#363: contempt

This is just a sample from this thread, some of them are yours. If this is not hatred, I guess I don’t want to know what hatred would look like on here.
When Jesus referred to Pharisees and hypocrites, he was not considering them as people he planned to see in heaven unless there was a change in them (”not everyone who cries Lord, Lord , will see the kingdom of heaven”)
So I guess, calling someone a hypocrite or the like is damning them to hell unless they change their ways.


392 posted on 01/30/2008 8:35:49 AM PST by westmichman ( God said: "They cry 'peace! peace!' but there is no peace. Jeremiah 6:14)
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To: westmichman
Umm, there's an important distinction between hating the sin versus hating the sinner.

You and others have taken this tangent of the debate surrounding the portion of my vanity post referencing Dobson's partial culpability for the impending demise of the GOP and conservative movement down to a childish level.

Some have stooped to sweeping (and wildly incorrect) generalizations about evangelicals uniformly believing this or that.

Some have taken exception to the concept that an evangelical leader could be egotistical, hypocritical or Phariseeical.

Some have stooped to using a religiously bigoted "Dobson's right - Fred's not a Christian."

Some have falsely claimed, in the face of reality and voluminous evidence, that Dobson was just minding his own business and innocently offered his opinion in casual conversation with a reporter.

Now, you want to characterize anyone who casts a critical eye on Dobson - but more specifically, his actions and comments - as a HATER.

All of this is silly blather.

The point contained in my vanity analysis and the question that is being asked is:

Did Dobson's attack on Fred Thompson help cause the GOP and the conservative movement to reach this point in the nomination process without a viable conservative candidate and with the unsavory choice of nominating either Mitt Romeny or (shudder) Juan McCain?

Evidence, logic and reason dictate that the answer is YES.

You cany deny that Dobson attacked Fred. You can claim Dobson's attack was justified. You can can call critically thinking evangelical FReepers HATERS. Do your worst.

I stand unashamedly by my positon and the evidence, logic and reason that support it.

396 posted on 01/30/2008 9:22:56 AM PST by Sideshow Bob (McCain's general election loss will rival the defeats of McGovern and Mondale!!!)
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