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Deal Hudson: Why I Don't Trust Mitt Romney
Crisis Magazine ^ | January 28, 2008 | Deal Hudson

Posted on 01/28/2008 9:21:21 PM PST by AFA-Michigan

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To: AFA-Michigan

Deal Hudson, who? I never heard of him.


261 posted on 01/29/2008 10:34:54 AM PST by Terrence DoGood
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To: restornu
Here is little background, the author Deal Hudson was removed as editor of Crisis magazine a few years back. He is an adult convert to Catholicism. I think he is on his third marriage or so.

The problem was he got caught in a public place groping a female college student. It was at a bar and everyone was drinking. Yes, he was a still married middle aged man. There was a thread on it on FR. The rumor was he has a problem with this type of behavior. He disappeared for a time and it appears he has resurfaced.

That is seriously ugly stuff. I suspect it reveals more about the character of the gossiper than it does the character of Mr. Hudson.

Given that not a word of your post has anything remotely to do with the factual content presented about Romney in this article, it seems that you have posted this disparaging gossip for no other objectively valid purpose than to smear the author's reputation and character; and so by association hope to undermine the credibility of the facts presented in the article.

Even if what you allege, and more ("Psst! A little background: He was secretly married a farm animal"), were true, it does not change the facts as claimed in the article. They are either true or they are not. The sordid gossip you hurl about the author cannot change the truth.

262 posted on 01/29/2008 10:39:19 AM PST by AHerald ("Be faithful to God ... do not bother about the ridicule of the foolish." - St. Pio of Pietrelcina)
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To: AHerald

I am LDS the person who has this knowledge on him is a Cathoic in good standing.


263 posted on 01/29/2008 10:49:35 AM PST by restornu
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Latest FR poll

“If it’s Flipper vs “Das Beast” (my edit)

Romney
80.4%

Third party
6.5%

Write-in
5.7%

No vote
2.7%

Undecided
2.6%

Hillary
2.0%


264 posted on 01/29/2008 10:50:45 AM PST by Grunthor (No Juan. No Huckaliar. NO JUDY! Not primary, not general, not ever.)
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http://www.offthekuff.com/mt/archives/004040.html


265 posted on 01/29/2008 10:51:18 AM PST by restornu
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To: Dan(9698)

Crisis magazine is a conservative Catholic publication.

AFA is American Family Association, a social conservative advocacy organization.


266 posted on 01/29/2008 10:53:09 AM PST by AFA-Michigan
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To: AHerald

“This material is all the more devastating when placed in juxtaposition against the Romney we see running for president: same authoritative demeanor, same assurance, same sincerity, and the same apparent strength of conviction in stating his “unwavering” values.”

Absolutely correct. Romney could be given a lie detector test and no matter how he answered the question, he’d pass.


267 posted on 01/29/2008 10:55:59 AM PST by AFA-Michigan
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To: Dan(9698)

The point is Dan is that people who live in glass houses should not throw stones This articel is from Deal Husdon who AFT-Michigan using to trash Romney.

Deal Hudson, hypocrisy, and disclosure (Hudson 1994 activities)
http://hugoschwyzer.net/2004/08/30/deal-hudson-hypocrisy-and-disclosure/

Off the Kuff
http://www.offthekuff.com/mt/archives/004040.html


268 posted on 01/29/2008 10:59:28 AM PST by restornu
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To: Terrence DoGood

See comment post 1.


269 posted on 01/29/2008 11:00:07 AM PST by AFA-Michigan
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To: Terrence DoGood

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1961207/posts?page=268#268


270 posted on 01/29/2008 11:04:25 AM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

I take it you approve of Professors hitting on Freshmen as long as the Professor is Catholic?

That makes him a really good spoksman.

(I have never hit on a Freshman.)


271 posted on 01/29/2008 11:05:59 AM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: restornu

Resty, please explain which parts of Mr. Deal’s commentary you allege to be false, and provide documentation.

Or in the alternative, just admit that:

1. You haven’t got a clue whether they’re true or false.

2. You’d vote for Romney just because you share his church affiliation, even if you knew for a fact that everything in Mr. Deal’s piece is true, and

3. You are thus knowingly engaging in, and obviously willing to, personal attacks against an individual you’ve never met in order to deflect truthful criticism of the candidate you’re supporting.

(Hot tip, Resty, you forgot the first play in the Rombot playbook. You forgot to accuse Mr. Deal of being a religious bigot. You’re supposed to use that one before spreading character assassination rumors about his sex life.)


272 posted on 01/29/2008 11:06:23 AM PST by AFA-Michigan
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To: Antoninus

You guys never act out of character. I asked a civil question. I really wanted to know the answer to it. Attack ... Attack ... attack...that’s all you guys know how to do. I just want a Republican to win. I believe Romney when he says he will nominate good judges. It must be difficult just always believe the worst in people. I don’t.

The bottom line is that we have the candidates we have. You can huff and puff, but what good does that do? I will go with the lesser of two evils, which in this case is the Republican nominee, whomever that may be. I’m sorry you would rather see this country destroyed then to trust someone’s word.


273 posted on 01/29/2008 11:08:26 AM PST by Hildy (You know you're in love when you can't fall asleep cause reality is finally better than your dreams)
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To: restornu
I am LDS the person who has this knowledge on him is a Cathoic in good standing.

First, it doesn't matter if you have videotape of the man committing the acts you allege. Gossip intended solely to disparage the character and reputation of another human being is never morally acceptable. Second, you might want to point your "Catholic in good standing" friend to the following from the Cathechism of the Catholic Church:

2477 Respect for the reputation of persons forbids every attitude and word likely to cause them unjust injury. He becomes guilty:
- of rash judgment who, even tacitly, assumes as true, without sufficient foundation, the moral fault of a neighbor;
- of detraction who, without objectively valid reason, discloses another's faults and failings to persons who did not know them;
- of calumny who, by remarks contrary to the truth, harms the reputation of others and gives occasion for false judgments concerning them.

2478 To avoid rash judgment, everyone should be careful to interpret insofar as possible his neighbor's thoughts, words, and deeds in a favorable way:

Every good Christian ought to be more ready to give a favorable interpretation to another's statement than to condemn it. But if he cannot do so, let him ask how the other understands it. and if the latter understands it badly, let the former correct him with love. If that does not suffice, let the Christian try all suitable ways to bring the other to a correct interpretation so that he may be saved.

2479 Detraction and calumny destroy the reputation and honor of one's neighbor. Honor is the social witness given to human dignity, and everyone enjoys a natural right to the honor of his name and reputation and to respect. Thus, detraction and calumny offend against the virtues of justice and charity.


274 posted on 01/29/2008 11:09:33 AM PST by AHerald ("Be faithful to God ... do not bother about the ridicule of the foolish." - St. Pio of Pietrelcina)
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To: Hildy
I believe Romney when he says he will nominate good judges. It must be difficult just always believe the worst in people. I don’t.

"Good judges" to you means something different than it does for me.

If you're in the tank for Romney, it just further reinforces my opposition.

I’m sorry you would rather see this country destroyed then to trust someone’s word.

Nice hyperbole. The country is not going to be destroyed one way or another. And I don't think for a second that you yourself trust Romney's word. You're smart enough to know that Romney is a flaming lib playing up to the social conservatives to get their votes. You "trust" him to knife them in the back at the earliest opportunity.

That's why you support him.
275 posted on 01/29/2008 11:14:44 AM PST by Antoninus (All you Mittens out there are going to feel like Flippers come November...)
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To: AFA-Michigan
Interesting, I just don't agree with Hudson's conclusion. Mitt has convinced me.

click below for info on Mitt:


276 posted on 01/29/2008 11:19:04 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: AHerald; All

People who live in glass house should not be the one throwing the stones!

Which part of this don’t you feel is fair!

Why should Deal Hudson be also given benifit of the doublt if this is the way you play the game?

it seems none of you appreciate this brought to attention in 2008, but it is ok for you to go back to the same area and try to use it to beat on others for pass views.


277 posted on 01/29/2008 11:25:44 AM PST by restornu
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To: DoughtyOne
We could survive another Clinton if we had to.

i see.. so we could survive another term(s) of clinton, but not of any republican currently viable.

like i said... you're demonstrating some sound jugdment there... for a democrat plant

278 posted on 01/29/2008 11:59:33 AM PST by sten
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To: sten

Sten, do you support the medication addition to Medicare? Do you support giving citizenship to those who have broken through our borders? Do you support a worker pass program so an almost unlimited amount of more Mexican workers can pour across our borders? Do you support downgrading our border with Mexico & Canada and adopting a parimiter defense line around all three? Do you support setting it up so the presidential papers of Bill Clinton and even papers of Hillary’s, to be hidden from view for a decade or more? Do you agree that with an International Criminal Court on the line, that we should have remained silent until many of our allies had signed on, just days before it was ratified?

Bud, I could go on. This is happening with our side (strike that, what passes for our side) in control. If we are to reverse this course, we are going to have to quit playing the game that allows them to do this to us.

If you wish to cast this as me supporting Hillary, so be it. Hillary would have been pleased as punch to do all of this, but she didn’t have to did she? Our folks did it.

Either we shake things up, or Hillary’s agenda will be implemented anyway, and by ‘our’ team. Well, it’s certainly not my team. And I have cast my last vote for folks who will continue on with this agenda.


279 posted on 01/29/2008 12:12:27 PM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: Greg F

A vote for Huckster is a vote for the McCain/Huckster ticket, probably the worst ticket we could possibly come up with from the candidates running.

Romney/Thompson would be way way better.


280 posted on 01/29/2008 12:32:40 PM PST by WOSG (Candidates come and go, but conservative PRINCIPLES endure)
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